It is a bad idea to burn the Quran, a book considered holy to over a billion people, and it’s a sin. Do I really need to say this to a fellow Christian? But Pastor Terry Jones wants to publicly burn copies of the Quran this Saturday, September 11. You can read more here: Pastor Wants to Burn Quran

I know he is trying to illustrate some important things. He is trying illustrate the western value of free speech, usually lacking in the Islamic world. He is trying to illustrate religious freedom here in the west and the lack of it in the Islamic world where Bibles have in fact been burned. He is trying to draw attention to the violent threats that have continued to emerge related to his plans.

Intentionally giving offense is wrong – I do not deny that there are problems in the Islamic world. But I also know that it is wrong to intentionally and grievously give offense to the religious traditions of others. Proper discussions, even debate about religious differences are healthy and part of evangelization. But ridicule and offensive practices directed against others is not of the Christian faith. Scripture says: Always be prepared to give an account to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that is in you. But do this with gentleness and respect (1 Peter 3:15).

Further, to tempt others to sin is wrong. It is a true fact that Pastor Jones’ plans have incited anger and threats. There are many in the Islamic World who have, in fact, a violent sense of their faith. Their view is morally wrong. But to needlessly incite that anger is also wrong. Knowing that there are violent tendencies in sectors of Islam, it is wrong to inflame those tendencies and draw others to anger and violence. In effect Pastor Jones is tempting others to sin. He may have a right to do this but it is not necessary for him to do this. This compounds the sinfulness of the planned book burning.

It is also wrong to endanger the lives of others by reckless behavior. It is a strong likelihood that hundreds, possibly thousands may die if rioting occurs. It is easy for us to say, “Well they shouldn’t get so worked up about it….see the problem is theirs.”  That is a debate for another time. But this action is sure to inflame passions. General David Petraeus has warned that our troops will also be endangered by these reckless plans. He has urged Jones to back down. Pastor Jones says he will “pray about it.”

Pastor Terry Jones is gravely misled if he thinks Jesus might tell him to do this. Jesus had a different notion: You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? (Matt 5:43-47)

We need to have an on-going discussion with the Islamic world about religious freedom and about the violence in growing sectors of Islam. But buring the Quran, a book they consider sacred, is no way to further such a discussion.

I’d like to know what you think of this. I hope all of us will be careful in this discussion to make necessary distinctions and maintain a respectful discourse. Issues such as this inflame passions. Further, it is helpful to see this issue not merely as a referendum on Islam. There are areas for appropriate concern when it comes to Isalm and how it interacts with the non-Islamic world. But a primary issue for us here should also be, is what Terry Jones plans to do what a Christian ought to do?

191 Responses

  1. a says:

    Two wrongs don’t make a right. September 11th or burning a Koran.
    To answer the last question: “what a Christian ought to do?”

    Believe in the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
    Believe that Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

    And on Saturday, September 11th I will pray, for all of God’s children to be open and accept that Truth into their hearts. Maybe that’s what we all should do.

  2. Grandpa Tom says:

    God bless you Msgr. Pope, for you are a man of peace. I however do not believe this act of burning the Koran is hateful or incindiary, but is rather a useful tactic. History shows that during WW-1 when British troops entered Iraq and were faced with an insurgency, they placed pork into the carcasses of the dead Islamic soldiers. This slowed down the insurgency because the Islamic martyrs felt they would not get to those 72 virgins in heaven because the pork descrated their bodies. Muawiyah ibn Abu Sufyan who ruled under the name Muawiyah I (661-680 A.D.) succeeded Ali and was the first leader of Islam after four caliphs. Muawiyah began to rise an anti-Ali following in Syria. In order to stop this uprising, Ali led his armies against Muawiyah in the Battle of Siffin. Although Mauwiyah was losing the battle, he convinced Ali’s soldiers to stop fighting and hold an arbitration; according to tradition, Muawiyah convinced Ali’s troops to submit to arbitration by placing Qurans on his army’s lances. Ali’s soldiers, unwilling to harm the (alleged) holy book, stopped the fighting (from; The Intellectual Devotional – by Kidder and Oppenheim). So burn, or destroy a few now, then seek arbitration.

    Mohammad built his new religion on the foundation of Arabian paganism which had 360 gods. The greatest of these gods was Allah originally known as ‘al-Iiahi’, the Moon God, and the God of War, like Zeus before him which was the war god of the Greeks and Romans. Mohammad choose Allah, and destroyed the other 359 gods. The Koran – Quran was written about 500 years after the death of Mohammad.

    It behooves us to remember the core issue is the covenant between Abraham’s two sons Isaac, son of Sara, and Ishmael the son of Hagar. Our greatest enemy is our ignorance. In Hosea 4:6 it says: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” Our lack or knowledge together with our aquisence when we sound like Jane Fonda only gives aid and comfort to our enemy. Remember, Abraham favored Isaac to inherit the covenant. The descendants of Ishmael are today’s arabs and believers of Allah, god of war and the moon. Their belief in Jesus, is that He will come back and break the cross, and declare us infidels. Also remember we, (U.S.A.) are in their eyes, the Great Satan. But if we call them Satan, we are worthy of death by the sword.

    There is only One God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and Jesus Christ was His Beloved Son, and our Lord and Savior, who lives and reigns together with the Holy Spirit, One God, Not the god of the crescent moon. The battle is for our souls, that is what the day of judgement will be all about.

    Pastors, and other leaders, have a duty to lead the sheep and warn us of certain danger. In Ezekiel 33:6 it says: “But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take away any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.” Stay alert and stay alive.

    • Tayib says:

      “Quran was written about 500 years after the death of Mohammad” — Really?? ha ha ha ha..grandpa tom, at least get your fact’s right,.

      • Tina says:

        Tom, ummm…facts are a bit skewed…and this is a hateful and pointed act. There is nothing good that could ever possibly come out of this little tactic on Saturday.

        Everyone is touting the constitutional right to free speech….but the constitution also protects us from speech that can incite violence…so the burning of the Quran would incite violence and that is protected. I am hoping that Rev. Jones realizes what a horrid thing he is promoting and will consider the backlash…if not, then federal authorities should move in to stop this event since the burning of this holy book is infalmmatory and hate based at best…the constitutional rights of Muslim Americans must be protected.

        This tempest in a teacup is ready to set the stage for international violence.

    • johny says:

      grandpa tom should we really be so sure that we should destroy books (ever read fahrenheit 451). Though it is undeniably efective so are NUKES! I only say this because i wouldn’t want 15% of the world trying to kill me and catholics will be muslim enemy number 1.

  3. Jane Doe says:

    those who read the koran felt “led” to drive planes into buildings and destroy 1000′s of lives.

    Those who read the bible feel “led” to burn books………………..

    SCRIPTURE does say this: IF you confront, or correct or rebuke the MOCKER, the FOOL, the UNBELIEVER, you will be mocked, you will be hated, you will be harmed…..

    SCRIPTURE also says that we are to live “apart” distanced, a safe way away from the unbeliever and from those that worship idols and other Gods. There are tons and tons of verses that tell us to REMOVE ourselves from temptation, to stay out of the company of these people, to not eat with them, to not interact with them………….for a little leaven leavens the whole loaf………….there is EXTREME danger to the Christian to not be able to be seperated from the unbeliever……………………

    Loving the enemy does not me accepting their sin. Loving the enemy does not mean turning the cheek to sin, nor covering up sin, nor tolerating it, nor condoning it, nor ignoring it…………..THAT IS NOT LOVE AT ALL……..

    You cannot be a friend of Gods and be a friend of the Worlds………….

    Loving the enemy means to OBEY GOD in every matter on how to treat the enemy, and to pray for them, and to do what you can so that their souls can be saved……………TO let them live peacefully next to you and remain in their sin is the MOST unloving, ungodly, unchristian thing a person can do.

    Jesus is our example. HE did not do the politically correct thing. He did not try and keep the peace, he never once HELD his tongue when it came time to speak TRUTH……………He was not interested in the polls, he was not interested in being liked or popular, he wasn’t interested in position, in memberships, in appearances…HE was interested in ONE THING only……….speaking the truth……………..at all costs.

    HIS way of interacting with the enemy was SUCH that it got them so angry, so disturbed, so incited that they MURDERED him…………….

    so don’t tell me that I am to conduct myself any differently then Jesus and not aggravate anyone.

    GET RID of the asherole poles, the idols and have NOTHING to do with any of these things…………….

    AMERICA proclaims to TRUST IN GOD, but they do not. AMERICA says we have freedom of religion, and the true CHRISTIAN has no freedom at all to practice faith because AMERICA won’t let them honor any of God’s laws……………America is a HUGE Hypocrit…………how can you say “we trust in God” and legalize abortion? how can you say “we trust in God” and have a legal system that boldface lies, false witnesses, and stirs up strife 24/7? how an you say you “trust in God” and be 13 trillion in debt? How can you say you Trust in God and allow ponography all over? How can you say you trust in God and let all of our media have unbridled tongues? speculate? project? and speak anything but what is good and pure and trustworthy? How can you say you trust in God when you do not teach GOD, make it an essential requirement of LIFE? You can’t even take a bible to school yet you are outraged someone wants to burn a Koran?

    • So should he burn the Quran?

      • Araceli says:

        This sounds terrible and bigoted, but yes, I think he should proceed to burn the Qur’an. Please be patient for my rather lengthy explanation. I am from the Philippines. While I have no personal contact with Muslim Filipinos, lowland Christian Filipinos have for centuries suffered from Muslims. We have a Muslim secessionist insurgency which cannot be wiped out because we are a Christian outpost in a predominantly Muslim population, and Saudi Arabia, from which we get our oil, keeps a protective eye out for our Muslims. If our clueless president gives in to Muslim demands and carves out a portion of Mindanao for the Muslims, will that mean peace and prosperity for the Muslims? I doubt it. For more 20 years the Muslims have had their autonomous region, money has poured into this region and the result has been the illegal and callous enrichment of a few thieving “royal” clans to a degree and grinding poverty to the rest of the population – the worst in the Philippines. Right now, in Manila, a trial is going on for the barbaric massacre of Muslim women and journalists – about 50 people in all – who had the temerity to think that the husband of one of the women could run for mayor.

        And everything, everything, is the fault of Christian Filipinos.

        Historically, the Muslims were never conquered by the Spaniards, but they came to a respectul accommodation with the Americans. Why? Because of their superior firepower. Muslims respect force.

        When the Pope made his Regensburg address, there was a large outcry, and people were killed, but in the end, some Muslim scholars opted for dialogue. Why? Muslims respect opposition coming from strength of mind and character.

        The mindset of Muslims – with the exception of a few moderate Muslim leaders like Abdurahman Wahid of Indonesia (now deceased) who was Sunni but read widely of Sufi teachings – tends towards the primitive. I noticed this even with an American Muslim who was interviewed on Fox tv. He spoke with an American accent, was dressed in a suit, but again, faced with opposition to the mosque, showed that he was completely incapable of understanding how offensive having a mosque near the 9/11 site would be. Tolerance and understanding is strictly a one-way street – towards Muslims, never the other way.

        I do not see anything in the Ten Commandments or the Cathechism of the Catholic Church that specifically bans the burning of the Qur’an. Yes, it is offensive to the Muslims, but it is not a sacred book to us. We are not committing sacrilege.

        Since human life is not valuable to the Muslims, who believe that they will go to heaven if they blow themselves up, as long as they can kill Christians also, I think also this fundamentalist pastor should threaten that for every Christian life that is taken, they will burn 10 Qur’ans. If they do not value human life, then at least they value their Qur’an. At least it might be a successful strategy. I recall that British governor who ended the practice of suttee. When the Hindus told him that it was their custom to throw widows on the pyres of their dead husbands, he replied that it was the British custom to hang people who did that from the nearest tree. Sometimes a degree of firmness is needed.

        • johny says:

          this is kinda rude because was it not a christian tactic to break into muslim cities and rape and murder muslim civilians so the christians sins would be forgivin. so are we so different at all?

      • Sabbir Salim says:

        hello araclei i am sabbir salim from the philippines and i do not understand that you said that muslim dosent honor life then you are wrong for only the act of one muslim you think that all muslim are dangerous i am really disappointed in you cause as a highschool student i cannot believe you would sa y that.

  4. Thomas says:

    To be honest, I view Islam not as a distinct religious tradition instituted by Muhammad, but as a Christian heresy. Its central tenants are borrowed from the Judaeo-Christian tradition, albeit in a distorted form, most of which find some precedent in the Christian tradition. Heretical works have been burnt throughout Christianity, and since the Qur’an is not divinely inspired, it is not sacrilege to do so. If we say it is objectively sinful because it gives offense, then proclaiming the fullness of the Truth, which offends quite a few people, could be held to be sinful as well. Such a position is absurd: the truth is quite offensive. Christ is the Sign which will be contradicted, and many take offense at Him. We shouldn’t let this bother us in the least.

    As to the wisdom of such an action, it probably isn’t very wise. The man is a protestant heretic, first of all, and is not a representative or leader of anything of importance. But neither is the Islamic persecution of Christians the world over wise, nor were the hundreds of years of Islamic aggression toward Christendom. Yet we have many more serious issues to contend with than a few hurt feelings. Western civilization is collapsing around us from an inner decay due to materialistic decadence; perhaps we should drop the false ecumenism and turn our attention toward the new Evangelization instead.

  5. Jim Davis says:

    I’m not going cite sources like I should because I can’t, I don’t know them – so here, the Truth in this message is ultimately from Christ regardless of the human vessel He proclaimed it through…and anything I type that is false is from me, may God forgive me for my ignorance.
    Patriotism – I reference it here because I often hear of arguments with “here in the USA, or we in the USA or we in the West should, America this or that”….Is it not correct that we are called to be patriotic but not to be so short sighted that we identify our brothers and sisters by the nation or faith they come from? Regardless of their current country/state of origin or faith, they are God’s children. That is not to say that we are to placate them and leave them in their ignorance, we are to correct them individually as a brother or sister from the heart. How is this action brotherly correction? I am a non-active marine, I have an American flag on my right arm (a reminder that some sins leave lasting scars), I have served this country so I would appreciate my duty to my country not being called in to question. That being said I believe we are taught that our devotion is to be towards Christ regardless of what our man made nation is called today.
    One individual stated they are humans and deserve our respect – yes, but more deeply they are children of God, our family and they deserve our Love. If we believe our Lord loves us more because we had the privilege of being born and raised in a Christian setting perhaps we should meditate more on to who much is given much will be expected. I have not read much compassion in some of these post for the children (God’s children) that are born into a radically Islamic family – does our Lord love them less? Will our example be I really, really love you, see that’s why I am burning your book? Really? Is that Truth w/Love?
    Some one mentioned book burning, I always thought those books and people were burned when there was a great chance that people would be led astray by the printed word. Individuals now have vast resources at their disposal to discern the Truth and come into relationship with our Lord. Are we not fighting against falsehoods still but in a different way now? It does appear, doesn’t it, that this act of burning has the potential to drive some of our brothers and sister farther into radical Islam, farther into false teaching, whose will is that? Ultimately that is the question, whose will is this man doing? We as humans can say Our Lord’s, the adversary’s or frankly we don’t know and then remain silent. Has anyone discerned and can demonstrate how this is the Lord’s will? When we speak out of ignorance are we not entering into the adversary’s play ground? Ultimately doesn’t speaking before listen to our Lord reveal our own pride?

    The only human face that my enemy has is mine. I don’t fear radical Islam because in fact it bears no weight on the eternity of my soul, me on the other hand I hold in distrust and that is still not enough. Ultimately, I believe this is a distraction, to entice more anger and hate on both sides to snatch way and devour. I believe I saw on here someone suggest that we study another faith even if we don’t know our own so we can fully know what we are dealing with. Is that wise, is there time for that, give up the study of Christ? Are we not dealing with concupiscence? Haven’t we already been told what we are dealing with? Are we not taught that our Lord is more concerned with the salvation of our soul then He is with saving people through us? Would it not be more prudent to perfect ourselves through His grace and then go study another faith if He call us to it? How does giving up or study of Christ fullfill our purpose to know, love and serve Him?

    Final questions – did we pray before our post? Did we ask our Lord to show us how our energy (life comes from Him, is His) spent on here might move us or our fellow kinsman closer to Him? What was the ultimate intent of our post?
    Be careful my brethren, blogging is fun but ultimately this is no game that we are playing. The stakes are not where something is built, what is burnt, who is killed, who is shown we are not afraid – it is the final four things!

    May God Bless you!
    Happy Birthday Mother, thank you so very much for your yes.

  6. Robert Klingle says:

    In answer to Jane Doe who said

    “those who read the koran felt “led” to drive planes into buildings and destroy 1000’s of lives”

    Those who read the Bible felt led to kill 12 million.

    Those who read the Bible feel led to deny the unemployed of money to feed their children.

    Those who read the Bible feel led to deny the poor health care.

    Those who read the Bible ………………..

    need I go on?\

  7. John L says:

    Msgr. Pope: Pope Gregory XVI, in his encyclical Mirari vos, said; ’16. The Church has always taken action to destroy the plague of bad books. This was true even in apostolic times for we read that the apostles themselves burned a large number of books. (Acts 19. 24.)’ This seems not to harmonise with your claim that it is wrong as such to burn the Koran. One might say, as you do that it is wrong in certain circumstances to do so, because of the evil that will predictably result, . But you also claim that ‘it is wrong to intentionally and grievously give offense to the religious traditions of others. Proper discussions, even debate about religious differences are healthy and part of evangelization. But ridicule and offensive practices directed against others is not of the Christian faith.’ This claim, which seems to be the basis for your assertion that burning the Koran is wrong as such, is false and directly contrary to the Scriptures. The Scriptures are full of examples of ridicule and offensive practices directed against the religious traditions of pagans; and these are praised and commanded by God. an example is Elijah with the priests of Baal in 1 Kings 18. The reason for this ridicule and offence is that false religions are evil and abhorrent to God, as the Scriptures also make abundantly clear. Respecting such religions is a sin, because it is showing respect to evil.

  8. Woman with a view says:

    Last year our military in Afghanistan burned copies of the Bible. Where was the outrage there?

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/05/bibles-destroye.html

    I think the pastor can burn the Quran because it is his right. He may be murdered for it…but that’s a chance he’s willing to take. The real shame is that it’s getting so much publicity.

    I’ve lived in Saudi Arabia for the last 30 years and can tell you that in general the average Muslim respects our holy book and would never burn it. Burn the US flag, yes, the Bible, no.

  9. Rebecca says:

    All I can say: love does not mean encouraging others to hate and encouraging others to do in the name og God is a very dangerous thing to do.
    We look to our relious leaders for guidance.

  10. Cotilda says:

    I honestly do not think he should burn the Koran. Its not right for Heaven’s sake. No matter what would happen after that, Its a Holy Book and we should respect all Holy Books whether they are for christians or not. They all belong to God and can some one tell me how many Gods we have? I know of only ONE!!

    • Thomas says:

      The Qur’an is not a holy book because it’s not divine revelation. It contains many theological errors and heresies, such as the claim that Jesus is not the Son of God, disbelief in the Trinity, and corruptions to the Old and New Testaments. These are errors and falsehoods: mistakes and lies do not belong to God.

      You’re espousing a position of religious indifference, which denies authentic Divine Revelation and is condemned as heretical by previous Popes.

      I recommend you find a copy of “The Popes Against Modern Errors,” available from Tan Books. Excellent resource on erroneous/heretical thought in modern times.

    • Bender says:

      The Koran a Holy Book? Hmm. Is the Book of Mormon also a Holy Book?

      Supposedly, the Book of Mormon was revealed by an angel to Joseph Smith, a “prophet” who sought to cultivate a bunch of religious followers, including engaging in military insurrection, as well as pursuing polygamy and marriage to underage girls.

      Hmm. That sounds familiar.

  11. Ten Page says:

    Thank you, Msgr, for your thoughtful words of reason! As a young, 20-something, American, it deeply bothers me that we as a nation think it appropriate to sink to the level of radical Muslims abroad and committ acts that are deeply offensive to others while attempting to cloak ourself in the freedom of worship that we claim to hold dear. Hate begets hate, and even if radical Muslims committ acts offensive to Americans, what gives us the right to committ similar hateful actions? It has to stop somewhere, else it will never stop. I sincerely hope that those who are abroad (Muslims as well as non-Muslim observers) hear your voice and other voices of moderation and understand that folks like Mr Jones may be getting a majority of the attention but are NOT representing the views of the majority in this country.

  12. Seeker says:

    I’ll again bring out here the case of Prof T.J. Thomas of Newman College in India ( a Catholic institution). He had his hand chopped off by Muslim fanatics this July because he had prepared a question paper with a ‘perceived’ insult to Islam. As if that was not bad enough, the College authorities (Catholics) have gone ahead and sacked him for this same reason – to preserve their image of having respect for all religions. It’s painful to see the image of this man sitting in the hospital and humbly stating that he has no ill-will for anyone.
    Sir, while burning Quran or deliberately insulting any religion may not be true Christian conduct, yet there has to be some sense of balance maintained by the Church. Instead of showing compassion for its own who are victimized by fanatics of other religions, you victimize them further in order to appease those who follow the course of violence.
    This conduct is not only outrageous but also hypocritical, since Catholics tend to be notoriously slow in acting against their priests who are involved in sin or wrong-doing – if they act at all, that is. But they rapidly swing into action against this unfortunate man in order to appear politically correct. I have a lot of respect for the teachings of the Catholic church but its conduct leaves a lot be desired.

  13. Brian English says:

    “Those who read the Bible felt led to kill 12 million.

    Those who read the Bible feel led to deny the unemployed of money to feed their children.

    Those who read the Bible feel led to deny the poor health care.

    Those who read the Bible ………………..

    need I go on?\”

    The Bible led people to do all those things? Do you happen to have any citiations? I do not recall seeing references to killing 12 million people, unemployment benefits, or health care in the Bible.

  14. Ricky Vines says:

    The Church opposes burning the Koran on 9/11 because it offends Muslims. How about burning a pornographic magazine, the black book of Satanic incantations or instructions on how to make a dirty bomb? I’m sure that will be alright anytime because those cause sin and evil. So, anything that causes evil is OK to destroy -even if it offends the wrong doers.

    However terrorism is evil and the terrorists have been guided and inspired by the Koran. So, shouldn’t the Koran be classitied as an instrument of evil that can be burned just like a book on pornography?

  15. JoAnn Roth says:

    We should carry Korans on planes, if Muslim terrorists believe they are sacred then our planes will be protected.

    I really agree with Grampa Tom – very educational!

  16. Steve on Long Island says:

    Dear Msgr. Pope:

    I often appreciate your writings but I disagree with you here.

    As Jesus instructed, false prophets will come and you can judge them by their fruits. Indeed, this is what we are seeing. The fruits of this false prophet have been on display for 1500 years.

    The Koran is not a “holy” book, unless one is worshipping the prince of this world. This hand-wringing and fretting about the sensibilities of those who would be offended just furthers the devil’s mission to turn us away from God.

    Where was the outrage about placing a Crucifix in a bucket of urine and displaying it as “art”? As I recall, the only public official who stood up to that outrage was Rudy Giuliani. Where was the outrage when US troops burned Bibles in Afghanistan last year? Why did no one stand up for my offended sensibilities? It’s perfectly acceptable to burn the Word of God but not the word of the devil?!!

    I don’t care that these Mohammedans believe it’s a sacred book. It’s not. It’s filled with evil (Read it; it’s in plain sight!) and ought to be burnt often and everywhere. Sometimes it is necessary to confront evil and call it by its proper name. That time is now. There ought to be pyres all over the country on Saturday.

    Appeasement and being Quislings only results in being slaughtered, just in an orderly fashion. Ask the Jews about that strategy in the 20th century. Ask the Christians of the East about that strategy where the demon-mongers came with the sword and turned their churches into temples for the devil, the moon god. Go ask the Christians in Turkey about how that has played out for them, if you can find one of the 3,000 still there, which is like trying to find a needle in a haystack today.

    It’s is well past the time when we need to stand up for the Truth, not cater to the advance of evil.

    As Jesus also instructed, we will have to answer for that, and many will say they are worthy of the Kingdom, but Jesus will send many of them away for being workers of iniquity even though they thought they were being faithful.

    Being a Christian is not to be a coward, an appeaser, or denier of the Truth. And it certainly does not mean that we countenance and accept and accomodate evil in our midst. As Jesus again tells us, we cannot be lukewarm in our Faith and I find much of this discussion and debate to be just that. Rather than being united with a fellow Christian, we allow the devil to divide us and turn us against each other, and further the lie that this false religion is “holy” and worthy of respect. It seems Obama was right about one thing: we are no longer a Christian nation.

    If you are not on fire with zeal for the Faith, then present your extended neck to the sword of the Mohammedans (which none of you Quislings would ever have the courage to do) or start to worship the moon god and prepare for your ultimate fate.

  17. Craig Dennis says:

    All of this is correct except for one thing: we do not merely need to have just “ongoing discussion” about religious freedom and violence in the Islamic world.

    We just need to remember the reason for our “being able to give the reason for our hope” and for doing it with “gentleness and respect”. The reason for this is conversion, evangelization, bringing people to Christ.

    Since everyone is sadly treating that as a lost cause or no longer binding obligation for Catholics and other Christians, we all forget *why* we’re being called to act a certain way. It is to be like Christ, and as much as we can let God convert us to do like Christ: draw people to Christ by being an exhibition of God’s love in the world.

    If we forget the “why” there is little reason for Pastor Crazy down there to NOT be a cafeteria Christian, and more than enough (bad) reasons (vengeance) for him to burn Qurans.

  18. Helen Ruth says:

    I destroy all offensive materials given to me, without fanfare. If it’s pornograhy, heresy, etc. I don’t make a huge deal out of it, I just make sure that it is not out in the world for others to read to be infected.
    If everyone destroyed garbage, it could not fall into the hands of people who are easily lead into sin.
    If you stand for nothing, you are destined to fall for anything!!

  19. Michael says:

    Msgr. Pope,

    Pardon me for saying but, I believe you are getting your political correctness mixed up with your religion. Burning the Quran is no more of a sin than burning the Bible, for they both are only paper and nothing more. Don’t misunderstand me, I truely believe that the Bible contains and presents devine revealed realities but, the Catholic Church is not a “religion of the book”.

    As far as Pastor Jones intentionally giving offense and drawing others into sin. Pastor Jones is no more responsible for the sins of the sinner than you are for the sins of your parishioners.

    Thirdly, I fail to see how Pastor Jones is endangering the lives of American combatants that have invaded another nation to put down a terrorist organization. This statement is beyond absured when looked at from any perspective. The American’s invaded a foreign country. Did it ever occur to Gen. Petraeus that this might be the reason his troops are being shot at and killed?

    Finally, talk is cheap. If you wish to or think that you can dialog with evil you are fooling yourself. I don’t pray to St. Michael the Archangel and ask him to have meaningful and productive discourse with Satan.

    I enjoy reading your blog posts and many have given me food for thought. Please know that you and all of our beloved priests are in my daily prayers.

    • CastingCrown says:

      I’m really quite shocked at these comments.

      1. Sacrilege is the sin of treating something that is holy with disrespect – in what way would burning a Bible not be treating God’s Word with disdain and disrespect?

      2. Those who teach others will be judged more strictly (James 3) and Jesus had some very stern words for those who caused the “little ones” to sin (Mark 9).

      3. Do you think that outrage at these actions will cause greater or less civil unrest? Greater, naturally. Cause and effect. I would tend to trust the judgement of those who are deeply involved in the fighting.

      Two school children in a school yard may have a fight, but the group around them chanting “FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!” are only escalating it, making a bad situation worse.

      4. “Dialog with evil?” So all Muslims are outright evil then? Is there is no hope for any of them to reach the fullness of truth? Satan is confirmed in his choice, human beings are not.

      • I too am alarmed with some of the comments that have rolled in. I can only explain them by trying to remember that some of the commenters seem to wish to address Islam in general and the violence they hear from it rather than to address whether it is right to burn the Quran. I tried, but to no avail to redirect the conversation back to the central question.

      • Michael says:

        CastingCrown,

        I am sorry that I have disturbed your political correctness.

        I thank you for your concern and while you have misconstrued what I have tried to convey, you have further taken the liberty to misquote the bible, take it out of context and twist it to suit your purpose. Just because the words fit, that dosen’t make them right.

        What is it about war that you think is or might be peaceful? Are you concerned about civil unrest in your backyard only but have no concern for your brothers and sisters in foreign countries? Further, we’re not at war with a country, we’re at war with an idology that is bent on the destruction of Christianity. Why is that difficult to understand?

        As far as Muslims being outright evil, no. However, if an individual chooses to subscribe to and hold true to the teachings of the Quran they have confirmed their choice. They have acted freely and now are responsible for the choice they have made.

        We are the Church Militant. Sometimes that means more than saying a few Hail Mary’s. It means getting a little dirty and making others uncomfortable. I am sorry that you find it difficult to so.

      • CastingCrown says:

        “I am sorry that I have disturbed your political correctness”

        Where in my answer did I cite political correctness? Rather, I used Sacred Scripture and logic.

        You failed to respond to the logic of (1).

        With regards to (2), you charged me with misquoting, taking out of context and twisting Sacred Scripture. That is an *extremely* serious charge I take *very* seriously, so please explain to me how I did this. I can also quote the Catechism, the Church Fathers and the Councils in my defence of the point I was making.

        > “Are you concerned about civil unrest in your backyard only but have no concern for your brothers and sisters in foreign countries?”

        In (3), what makes you think that I was talking about civil unrest in America? I was actually referring to countries abroad – the ones with soldiers and missionaries whose lives will be put into even greater jeopardy through the incitement of the general Muslim populations through this tiny congregation’s ill thought out demonstration.

        Do you think that the best way to win souls for Christ is through antagonism? Do you think it is wise to give the East yet further confirmation that the West is fallen, callous and disrespectful? How receptive do you think the Muslim I work with is going to be to the Gospel in light of such acts that offend not only his religious sensibilities but his closely-related cultural pride?

        “However, if an individual chooses to subscribe to and hold true to the teachings of the Quran they have confirmed their choice. They have acted freely and now are responsible for the choice they have made.”

        As I’m sure you know in many of these countries most people will have only been exposed to Islam and will have heard very little about Christianity, other than its heresy. Then they are presented with images of these “heretics” burning the Koran, the book they have been told their entire life is sacred. Do you think they will be more or less open to the Gospel the next time they encounter a Christian?

        Michael, your zeal is indeed commendable, but we’re in the business of bringing people to Jesus here. This book burning will achieve *nothing* but enforce cultural stereotypes and put up barriers to the Gospel.

        I’m sure you’re a faithful son of the Church and I am therefore sure that the recent comments by the Vatican will give you pause for thought. I also recommend you take a look at “Nostra Aetate”, beginning at paragraph #3.

        You are right when you say that we’re in a war, but it is not a war against “flesh and blood” (Eph 6:12) and this is a war where our “mission” objective is very clear: to preach the good news to the poor, release the oppressed and set captives free.

      • Michael says:

        Yes I beleive You should Burn the Koran and the Book of Mormons, Ellen Whites Seventh day Adventist Cultic Books, The Jehovah’s Wittness New World Translation of the Bible, The Catholic Catechism, and any other Book that Preaches another Gosple Than the Gosple of JESUS CHRIST.
        Paul the Apostle said: “If any man preach another Gosple unto You than the One You have heard of us, even if an angel comes from heaven preaching another Gosple or another JESUS unto You than that You have recieved of us, Then Let him be Forever CURSED!” (Anathema)

        Catechism: “It is wrong to Vinerate anyone but GOD”
        Catechism contradicting itself: “One day the Church will be joined to Mary the one she Vinerates”

      • CastingCrown says:

        “Yes I beleive You should Burn the Koran and…”

        Nothing in your response engaged with anything I said, which is rather disappointing.

        “Catechism contradicting itself…”

        This is also disappointing. No Catechism paragraph numbers? The catechism does not contradict itself, even if your limited paraphrase may.

        As I’m sure you know, Catholic worship God alone, but venerate and give honour to Saints which include that lady who said of herself “henceforth all generations will call me blessed” – we are just fulfilling those prophetic words.

        As Christians, we are called to imitate Christ and you can be certain that nobody else fulfilled the commandment “Honour your father and your mother” better than Jesus – we are called to do the same.

        Nobody is afraid that, in praising the art, we will detract glory from the artist! Indeed we give the artist *more* glory by praising the work of his hands. And what a work! The woman who would become the New Eve, the Ark of the New Covenant, the Queen Mother – full of grace indeed!

    • I would be responsible for the sins of my parishioners if I incited them to sin, tempted them and misled them. No one who tempts and incites can remain aloof from guilt for what they do.

      • Michael says:

        Msgr. Pope,

        I agree with what you say but, how is Pastor Jones leading his flock into sin? His congregation isn’t threatening violence, civil disobedience or anything else. Pastor Jones is calling into question the teachings of the Quran and proving that the Muslim faith isn’t a true and peaceful faith based on the same teachings of the Christian faith. He has proven it quite the opposite and did nothing more than mention the burning of a book.

        • I think Michael that I addressed this in the article: The sin is threefold: 1. An unecessary and disresepctful act directed at a large group who reverence the Quran. We may not consider it sacred but out of respect for them as human being we ought not treat what they consider holy in this way, we are disrepecting them, that Vatican makes this point. 2. Unecessarily Provoking others to anger. There are times where we cannot avoid inciting others to anger becuase we are doing something good and necessary, such as preaching the Gospel. But this is not a necessary act and hence it is wrong to do it knowing it will provoke and tempt others to perhaps extreme levels of anger. 3. Unnecessarily endangering the lives of of innicent thrid parties. Given the cauldron of anger and retaliation taht exists in extreme forms of Isalm and knowing it is likely to erupt we ought not stir this unless necessary. It is true that some will get angry even when we do good things and we cannot help that or avoid doing it. But Burning a Quran is niether good nor necessary. And forseeing the likely endangerment of others it is sinful to indulge one’s freedom in this regard. We ought to have greater respect for the common good.

          • Christian Minister says:

            This is not a reply as such, but a comment on Pastor Terry Jones re his burning copies of the Koran, the holy book of the Muslims, which says the Prophet Mohammed received the Revelation thru the Angel Gabriel. If this is true then that Pastor has already sinned against the God of Abraham who saved the lad Ishmael thru an angel when the angel pointed out to Hagar, his mother, that the lad would be saved. Ishmael is the forefather of the Prophet Mohammed. If this is so, we, Christians, Muslims and Hebrews serve the same God. There are fundamentalist adherents in every faith, the fanatic. There are thousands of Muslims who do not hold the “ultra-violent view” of some Muslims. Let us look at the newly converted Christian, while he may not want to kill anyone he wants to convert everyone, even the much more mature Christian, THE ZEAL IS THE SAME, THE FIRE IS THE SAME, BUT NOT PROPERLY DIRECTED. Pastor Jones is certain, he is sure, he definitely knows that the result of his action is going to be violence perpetrated on some person or persons located thousands of miles from his abode (God forbid) hence he wants to DO AS HE PLEASES.
            I am certain that, let us suppose, if he knew that his favourite daughter were to go out with a certain red dress the new sex maniac on the block, the one who has eluded the police, would kidnap and hold her for days, he would FORBID HER TO GO OUT with that dress. If he did not he would not be a good father.

            Then, what is he doing. Is HE A TERRORIST ALSO? Note people, The teaching of the Leader of the Christian Faith must guide the Christian. When faced with a situation put your bias aside and look at the facts. Fundamentalists in all Faiths MUST BE PROPERLY TAUGHT. In Peters day proselytes were taught for three years before their baptism. Jesus tells us “we war, not against flesh and blood, but AGAINST PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS AND SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN HIGH PLACES” The fundamentalist seeks to kill another person, ANOTHER SOUL WHO HAS BEEN PUT HERE BY THE SAME FATHER OF ALL, THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF HIS SOUL GROWTH INTO MATURITY INTO THE FULLNESS OF THE STATURE OF CHRIST. There are going to be three (3) sure results of burning copies of the Koran 1. Violence is going to be perpetrated on persons by Fundamentalists.
            2. More hate will be felt by Muslims and 3. More young people will join the Muslim Faith.
            YOU SEE, MANY OF US BELIEVE THAT GOD IS UNABLE TO DEFEND HIMSELF, THE SCRIPTURE IS HIS, GIVEN TO US. HIS HAND IS NOT SHORT IF HE IS UNABLE TO DEFEND HIMSELF HE IS NOT WORTHY TO BE CALLED GOD. THAT DOES NOT SAY YOU DON’T STAND UP AND PROTEST FOR WHAT YOU CONSIDER TO BE RIGHT. GOD IS ABLE – BLESSED BE HIS HOLY AND ADORABLE NAME.
            Christian Minister.

            • Moderate Muslim says:

              Hey, Christian Minister, would you mind giving us some comments on burning the Bible? There have been many examples of it in the past, and the practice continues. Even better, referencing the destruction of Christian churches and mass murder of Christians by Islamic “extremists” in the Middle East and Africa would be helpful. I am also curious about your intimate channels of entry to Pastor Jones´ mind. Do you have special access? And, last but not least, could you please stop using capitals? It is annoying and might incite me to anger, which would be sinful.

              • Ah Richtea you are most clever here. But any way, you are right in saying we have been mightily sinned against. I will try to improve on making this news a bigger part of the blog. Also, sorry to have incited your anger over CAPTIAL letters. However as I pointed out, it is not malum in se to incite anger. It is only sinful when it is unecessary.

                • Woody says:

                  Would it be a sin to burn the quoran in private?

                • Moderate Muslim says:

                  Ah, Monsignor,
                  Unnecessarity or otherwise is in the eye of the reader in this instance. No need for apologies, though; my anger will be my sin. That is quite proprietory, regardless of source. Otherwise I think you will be on the right track with your suggestion. God bless!

          • Michael says:

            You say we should respect the Muslems for their Beleif, I have read the Koran and underlined passage after Passage of statements where Mohammed taught his followers that “The Christains and the Jews are the Most Evil people on earth.
            In Surrah 9:5 Mohammed the told every one of his Followers (Not just extreem ones as You suppose) That: “When Your holy days are fullfield go into all the land and Kill the infidels (-Infidel according to Isalm is anyone who has not converted to Islam) lay wait for them, lay snares for them, by any means except they convert and observe the holy days…..”
            Islam is a Murdering Religion. If You turn Your eyes from believing that, then Your decieved!
            I once told a Druid that “I respect you for your belief ” and the moment I walked away The Holy Spirit said to Me: What did You say to Him. He put me in Check because I told the guy that I respected him for his belief.
            Druids steel their neighbors cats and offer them up in blood sacrifice to devils and I told the Guy the I respected him for his belief. Since then I dont tell Catholics that i respect them for Necromancing mary and the other Idols they have in ignorant false teachings. Nor do I show any respect to the false Lies that Mohammed taught against The Gosple of JESUS CHRIST.
            I served as an alterboy for Years in the catholic church and after holding the Bible side by side to the teachings of catholism the Bible shows the Catholic church to be a false religion also.
            Cathololic church teaches: The Preist offers each mass as a sacrifice for the sins of the people.
            Hebrews 1 states that CHRIST JESUS offerd His Blood Once, as a sacrifice for sin, not to be offered again.
            Catholic: “we believe salvation comes through the church to get to JESUS”
            Bible: “There is one mediator between God and Man, The Man Christ JESUS”

  20. Dismas says:

    I’m weary of this thread. Here’s the Roman Catholic Churches’ official position. What church do the rest of you belong to?

    COMMUNIQUE CONCERNING “KORAN BURNING DAY”

    VATICAN CITY, 8 SEP 2010 (VIS) – The Pontifical Council for Inter-religious Dialogue today released an English-language communique describing its “great concern at the news of the proposed ‘Koran Burning Day’ on the occasion of the anniversary of the 11 September tragic terrorist attacks in 2001 which resulted in the loss of many innocent lives and considerable material damage.

    “These deplorable acts of violence, in fact, cannot be counteracted by an outrageous and grave gesture against a book considered sacred by a religious community. Each religion, with its respective sacred books, places of worship and symbols, has the right to respect and protection. We are speaking about the respect to be accorded the dignity of the person who is an adherent of that religion and his/her free choice in religious matters.

    “The reflection which necessarily should be fostered on the occasion of the remembrance of 11 September would be, first of all, to offer our deep sentiments of solidarity with those who were struck by these horrendous terrorist attacks. To this feeling of solidarity we join our prayers for them and their loved ones who lost their lives.

    “Each religious leader and believer is also called to renew the firm condemnation of all forms of violence, in particular those committed in the name of religion. Pope John Paul II affirmed: ‘Recourse to violence in the name of religious belief is a perversion of the very teachings of the major religions’ (address to the new ambassador of Pakistan, 16 December 1999). His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI similarly expressed, ‘violence as a response to offences can never be justified, for this type of response is incompatible with the sacred principles of religion’ (address of His Holiness Benedict XVI, to the new ambassador of Morocco, 6 February 2006)”.
    CON-DIR/VIS 20100908 (300)

    • Thomas says:

      Yes, this statement released is certainly correct, and approaches the topic from an angle that many miss: that the Qur’an shouldn’t be burned not out of any intrinsic respect owed to it, as it is not authentic divine revelation, but due to the dignity of the person who ascribes to Islam. Though we do not hold that Islam is divine or salvific of itself, nevertheless there is no reason to give scandal to others by needlessly burning their texts.

      At the same time, I do see the point of those wanting to take such an action. They view the current struggle not as extremists vs. moderates, but as a continuation of the ancient struggle between Islamic culture and Christendom. It’s undeniable that those partaking in or inciting Jihaad see it in this manner, and I’d venture to say a good number of Muslims worldwide do as well. We in the West have forgotten the historical motivation for the Crusades and their necessity, and fail to see this conflict as quite a large number of Muslims do: as the Islamic ‘Ummah against its ancient foe, Christendom. These people, though Protestant heretics themselves, sometimes see the issue more clearly than we do. Though I can not condone their misguided actions, I understand where they’re coming from and their frustrations.

  21. Diane at Te Deum says:

    Monsignor – a Florida news source is claiming the pastor has now cancelled plans to burn the Korans. I won’t believe it until 9-11 has come and gone without incident. He is claiming he reached a deal with the imam on the NYC mosque to move it. Several news sources are carrying the story, but I still don’t trust it.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/09/09/2010-09-09_pastor_terry_jones_to_call_off_koranburning_says_he_made_deal_with_ground_zero_m.html

  22. Marie says:

    Look at what Satan is doing through the Quran in all Islamic countries: violence, oppression, ignorance, intimidation and what not. And that is what they want to import here. If the Quran is a holy book, then nothing is really holy. Islam is a religion of ignorance, illiterates, etc. The majority of its followers don’t know their left and right. That’s why Islam has so many followers. It’s just a few educated Islamic leaders who are driving this religion. I don’t understand how educated Americans become Islamic. It just don’t go with the West!

    Whether it is a holy book or not, it is obvious that Satan is using the Quran to destroy world peace. The world could have been a better and a peaceful place to live if there were no Islamic religion. Islam turned this beautiful planet which God created for human beings to happily and peacefully live on it into chaos and bloodshed both on the air and on the ground. There is no safe place anymore. The entire world is filled with fear and terror…thanks to Muhammad. Will we ever get back the old good time? All I am praying for is, the world without Islam!

    ANY AMERICAN WHO UNDERSTANDS THE DANGERS OF ISLAM MUST FIGHT AGAINST THE SPREAD OF IT HERE (USA) SO THAT THIS GREAT COUNTRY WOULD NOT BECOME ONE OF THE ISLAMIC COUNTRIES AS IT IS IN THEIR IMAMS PLAN – TO ISLAMAIZE AMERICA AND GREAT BRITAIN. GOD FORBID IT!!

    • Michael says:

      I agree, Islam is a Murdering Religion, Look at all of Northern Africa where islam has spread by the edge of the sword to total submission today. Want to hear real true stories of real christians dying today and tomarrow? They are: find: “Voice of the Martyrs” Christians are being Murdered every day for not converting to islam.
      In ALL Islamic Countries Muslem parents will drag their Own Children out in the streets and stone them to death if they ask JESUS into their hearts and become Christians.
      And they claim :”allah is gracious” Polygomy and Murder is their rightousness, They are Perverse!
      Mohammed had 22 wives, stole his step sons wife claiming his meccah moon idol allah said to give her up to him (Surah 33) married a 7 year old little girl and molested her when she was only nine.
      I MY Free Country he would have been tried and sentenced to a Prision as a Pedifile.

  23. Steve Kellmeyer says:

    I have read the Quran.
    Now can I burn it?

    In the spirit of ecumenism, shouldn’t we be giving the good pastor matches and kerosene?

    Burning heretical material (and heretics, for that matter) is part of Catholic tradition.
    Even ecumenical councils did it.
    So why are we upset that a Christian is emulating the example of Catholic history?
    Shouldn’t we accentuate the positive here and congratulate him on his grasp of tradition?

  24. IDivineEarthiasia says:

    I believe stooping so low to burn something that is Holy to others in down right ignorant. I understand that people feel that burning the Quran is a good act of remembering the peopl of 911. But this is just going to cause major problems between the Christian and Muslim groups. So would it be right for me to burn your Holy Bible? No! i just stating the the burning of my brotherly and sisterly nation Holy Quran is not going to solve any problems. Your creating something that is going to be hard to stop and it’s not just going to be muslims, responding in a negative way for the insane activity. So your starting something that you better hope your God can protect you, your family and whatever else you consider valuable, because people are going to become upset and they are going to act violently. Because someone feels that burning something valuable to others, is teh proper way to remember people who died in 9/11. People are not thinking about that it was not just christians who died, but other religions too. People shouldn’t be that damn ignorant. and too be so Holy In The Name Of Your God or Jesus, your are commiting a sin, that will lead to other sins, that will defy your ten commandments.. Also people make ignorant comments like how people become Islamic.. To that person Islamic or Islam is a way of living not a religion. Things like Christianity, Judaism, and Buddhism are religions, they are based on beliefs and values. You people should become more educated about the Islamic way of life before you decide to make an ignorant comment like that.. Yes everything you do is ignorant because you violate your so called HOLY BIBLE.

  25. Bender says:

    because people are going to become upset and they are going to act violently

    Not to single you out, but I wonder if this is not a rather uncharitable and, dare I say, bigoted belief?

    Is it not rather uncharitable and bigoted for us to automatically presume that Muslims are wholly incapable of responding in a civilized manner, that they are wholly incapable of responding in a non-violent and peaceful way? As a matter of charity, should not we presume the best of Muslims? That, even if their feelings are hurt, they will not reflexively lash out with violence and terrorism, but will instead maintain their dignity and prove that they are better than this idiot from Florida?

  26. Christian Minister says:

    There is an error is number 2 of results of the burning. No. 2 should read: “2. More hate for Christians will be felt by some Muslims.” In addition, I also agree with much of what what was said by the others about disrespect for what is held to be holy by others etc. Would Jesus have taken that course of action if he were here TODAY? The Old Testament, The New Testament and the Koran speaks highly of Jesus.
    Christian Minister. Lastly, softly, tenderly Has the Government approached him on this. What? your hands are tied? broken no law? o.k. but you’ll be wounded, you’ll spend the money, may God help us all!

  27. b says:

    wow! people are fighting over religion! why? i mean lets think here for a minute. has anyone ever met any god that is worshiped? NO!! so why are we fighting? every religion thinks that there religion is the right. so who is wrong? muslims are extreme about there religion and will go to great links to prove an show it is the only way to belive. the burning of the koran proves that. we are so affraid to make any negitive jestures torwards the muslims in fear of what might happen. i say they have achived a powerful tool towards america. fear! and we are playing right into it. dont burn the koran or else. we are going to build what we want, where we want, when we want or else! seriously!

  28. Noname says:

    Maybe you should stop putting these different types of muslim under one group. Muslims in general are no different than other people. They have morales and beliefs just like everyone else. Its the muslim extremists that you should be against, not the muslim population. Burning their holy book is not justified because it offends the muslim people as a whole not the muslim extremists that committed these attacks on our nation. All those that believe it should be burned, just think, what would Jesus do? Would he burn their holy book?

  29. Michael says:

    Msgr. Pope and CastingCrown,

    I beg your forgivness. I have been uncharitable, judgmental, and self righteous. Unfortunately, my anger and frustrations over the matter have gotten the best of me. I have truly taken to heart what you have written and have followed up on the reading recommended. I have been enlightened by both of you and wish to thank you both for your patience and charity. My prayers are with you.

  30. samir says:

    Hello to whoever is thirsty REALITY
    Answer to Grandpa Tom

    The Koran – Quran was written about 500 years after the death of Mohammad !!!!!!!

    You have INFORMATION very well about arbitration
    But your information about Quran and mohamad MESSENGER allah very UNSOUND and TEENY.
    If you like know REALITY about mohamad MESSENGER allah , you can say to me and I can help you.
    You say to me , who written quran 500 years after the death of mohamad MESSENGER allah?

  31. samir says:

    Hello to whoever is thirsty REALITY
    Answer to Grandpa Tom
    The Koran – Quran was written about 500 years after the death of Mohammad !!!!!!!

    You have INFORMATION very well about arbitration
    But your information about Quran and mohamad MESSENGER allah very UNSOUND and TEENY.
    If you like know REALITY about mohamad MESSENGER allah , you can say to me and I can help you.
    You say to me , who written quran 500 years after the death of mohamad MESSENGER allah?

  32. Michael (2) says:

    This is a Typical Responces from The Fake Religious Community who doesent have the backbone to defend their Own Faith against a Lie.
    Here’s the funny Part The Catholic Catechism states that “Muslems are Our fellow brothers in faith for they worship the same One God we do.” -This is the Archbishops Beleif. – How ignorant they are! Mohamed made Mockery of the Gosple of JESUS CHRIST by teaching all his converts That JESUS is NOT the Son of God.
    1st John says: “He that beleiveth not the record that God gave of His Son maketh God a Liar”
    2nd Mohammed worshiped his mother & fathers false meccah moon idol named allah, who in not The God of Abraham, Isacc and Jacob,
    But these Catholics are for sale to appease the world and be polically correct.
    JESUS CHRIST is The Son of The Living God, and Eternal Life is in Him alone.

  33. MichaelP says:

    I have read most of all here about this article and there are along of good arguments on both sides. I am somewhat educated in Islam from a Kafir’s perspective. There is no excuse for any Christian/Catholic to respect and venerate Islam. The CCC only mentions Muslims and does not get into Islam. We are to love and respect all our brothers and sisters, for sure. But allowing them to soak in the tub of crap is not charity. I do, though, agree with Msgr. Pope on this one only because it is unnecessary. However, when they pull their crap again, which they do everyday in other parts of the world, we should round up all the Korans and burn them, and shutdown every Mosque on American soil that supports Shariah Law. Shariah Law directly conflicts with the Constitution of America and should be treated like Communism. Shariah Law also directly conflicts with the Golden Rule in Christianity. Shariah Law is dualistic in how it treats people. The same rules don’t apply to all.

    Although, I agree with Msgr. Pope, I do have a few questions for him. Aren’t we Christians supposed to store our treasures in Heaven and not in earthly things? What I mean is, aren’t we supposed to be more concerned about the spiritual well being of ourselves and others and not whether our/their life is summoned from us? If we burn a Koran for the sake of saving souls and allowing the Kingdom to come to another person, then why should be allow the possible death of another Christian prevent that act? Isn’t spiritual death worse than bodily death? I have heard many stories of Saints that desired to be killed and longed for it so that they could enter into the Glory promised to them, through Christ. Does the lack of this desire prove a weakness in faith or a lack of faith in your fellow Christian?

    and some thoughts on Islam from the real true WORD of GOD…..

    Genesis 16
    The LORD’S messenger found her by a spring in the wilderness, the spring on the road to Shur, and he asked, “Hagar, maid of Sarai, where have you come from and where are you going?” She answered, “I am running away from my mistress, Sarai.” But the LORD’S messenger told her: “Go back to your mistress and submit to her abusive treatment. I will make your descendants so numerous,” added the LORD’S messenger, “that they will be too many to count. Besides,” the LORD’S messenger said to her: “You are now pregnant and shall bear a son; you shall name him Ishmael, For the LORD has heard you, God has answered you. He shall be a wild ass of a man, his hand against everyone, and everyone’s hand against him; In opposition to all his kin shall he encamp.”

    and St. Paul’s take on it….
    “For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar [Hagar]. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above us is free, which is the mother of us all. For it is written, Rejoice thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freeman. So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.”
    Galatians 4:22-31

    Michael P.

  34. MichaelP says:

    From the “religion” of “peace”……… when will the Catholic leadership start standing up to these attacks? I really can’t wait for these baby boomer priests to retire. The new seminarians are going to have to take up this battle and I know they are preparing for it. The 60s and 70s are still plaguing our beloved Church. There aren’t many St. Peters or Pauls roaming the churches anymore, minus Pope Benedict XVI. He is a man of fortitude and principle.

    **************************
    see Jihadwatch.org
    More madness. “Twelve dead in Kashmir, Christian school torched,” by Izhar Wani for AFP, September 13

    MichaelP

  35. enrique says:

    Why don’t you adore it? love it? worship it? Produce it in mass numbers? read it and teach it to the people?

  36. natalie says:

    i think it is sick to burn the quran. most of my mates are muslim where i am christian and religon dosent come inbetween us so why should it get inbetween nations ? its racist, sick, wrong etc etc if someone i new was going to burn one i would make sure they where punished for doing it. ive never heard of a muslim burn the bible so why should we burn the quran !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! everyone who agrees with burning it is absouloutly sick

  37. Mahdi says:

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  38. Sabbir Salim says:

    from all the comments that i read i do believe that burning the quran would bring more harm than good.
    all those who says that muslims are the one whose the cause of the death of thousands of men and women in the day of Sept,11. How do you know that muslims are the one who caused all of these. Did you know that burning of our holy book would make us feel bad, especially to those who are innocent muslim who only want to live in peace. I am only a highschool student and i study in a christian school, but in my school they teach us that respect begets respect and that i believe did you know that my christian friends when they heared that you would burn the Quran they felt bad because they know that christian do not act like this. As a muslim i respect christians for their kindness but now i felt dissapointed cause i didnt no that even christians has a mind destroying others holy book. You know instead of making a new world without war you are only causing more problems that would come eventually .thats why many muslim thinks that USA has no repect, but for me i dont believe this so please Pastor Jones think carefully before even me would change my mind about USA please dont wait till the world would end up into chaos for only such act of burning a holy book of the islamic religon….

  39. Peter Wolczuk says:

    People who burn books make me think of those who seek to destroy any achievement which seems better that they can do. Regardless of the stated motive; it seems (to me) more like a desire to make themselves look better by removing anything above their abilities. Any book which becomes vulnerable by being under criticism could well feed this type of motivation. Bible next?

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