My remarks will be brief, since this is not a political blog, and I am not a political prognosticator. The American people and process have spoken. But a few remarks based on the election results, things I think of as undeniable facts for the Church, though you are free to offer any rebuttals.

1. The strained relationship between the Catholic Church in the Democratic party will continue and the strain will likely grow. The reasons for this are that the Democratic Party is increasingly aligning itself with positions that are in direct conflict with Catholic teaching. More of this in the following points.

2. Largely unrestricted abortion will continue unabated, as will funding for organizations such as Planned Parenthood, the chief provider of abortion in this country. Possible Supreme Court nominations will also feature pro-choice jurists. Likewise many Circuit and other Federal District Court judges will continue to be appointed who favor largely unrestricted abortion.

3. The homosexual agenda will continue to grow and receive increasing legal recognition and protection. This includes not only gay “marriage” but also, other issues in the Gay agenda such as adoption, and the general insistence that the Gay lifestyle be promoted in schools and other public settings. This will require Church opposition and generally embroil us in many public disputes. This may have continued even with a Romney win, but there will be fewer political hurdles for such agendas and the pace will be quicker.

4. The HHS mandate moves forward, untouched. Our religious liberty is in greater jeopardy. We’ll have to meet the administration in court. And while the legal basis for our grievance seems strong, recent experience in the courts has demonstrated that nothing is certain. Civil disobedience may be in our future.

5. Extreme debt seems likely to pile up. Well this may not be a specific issue the Catholic Church has spoken to, it remains a fact that we spend money we do not have, and this has moral implications. Little change in a very divided Congress, means there will be likely little progress in arresting a runaway debt. This will become an increasing moral problem that the Church will likely have to address at some level. This too draws us into the morass of debates about spending priorities etc. and may divide us as a Church between fiscal conservatives and those who emphasize the Social Doctrine.

Thus, the next years ahead, will likely draw the Church into increasing conflict with the political scene in general, and the Democratic Party specifically.

And while it is not the instinct to the Church to be drawn into one side of the political debate, moral issues are increasingly demanding from us an unambiguous stance, one which draws us into increasing conflict with the Democratic Party on issues which we consider non-negotiable. At the same time, issues that we may share with the Democratic Party, are less doctrinal or certain for us. We face difficult days ahead, and difficult decisions about strategy and how to engage a party in power that is increasingly at odds with our most central tenants.

The Central question for us is, How will the Church be able to articulate her positions, increasingly at odds with the platform of the Democratic party and be able to resist the (unfair) charge that we are merely the Republican Party at prayer. There are difficult days ahead for the Church.

Let us pray for great courage and prudence.

212 Responses

  1. Jan says:

    Monsignor, the entitlement class has the country firmly in it’s grip. The Republic is lost.

    • Liam Ronan says:

      I remember Our Lord’s words spoken on the way to His Crucifixion: ” For if men do these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?” (Luke 23:31)
      We have become the dry tree of Faith in the US. What manner of treatment will the remnant of faithful Catholics now have to endure?
      “In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.” (Hebrews 12:4)
      That time, I fear, is on the very horizon.
      Mary Immaculate save us.

    • Stan Zychowski MD says:

      Now is the time to follow Jesus. A time for “white” martyrs who are NOT afraid to become Saints.
      We have all been ransomed by Jesus at great cost to Him … even President Obama.
      Pray for those who have fallen for the lies of materialism and relativism. Pray that Jesus will save them.

      God’s Will be done … always. Long live Christ the King !

  2. VistaNow says:

    Sad night, because the nation voted their morality

  3. Todd Flowerday says:

    1. I think it’s about as bad as it can get.

    2. It puts the onus on us to be more persuasive. The decision for or against abortion remains with individuals, not government. People could decide against it starting tomorrow, and no law in this nation can force abortion. I think it’s time for a number of political pro-lifers to go local, and try persuasion.

    3. There’s nothing about same-sex unions that is objectively sinful. Unions imply sexual relationships, but if the Church were serious about addressing what it sees as sinful, they would move to criminalize all sexual activity outside of marriage. I suspect they are unwilling to do this. If the issue is, as some Catholics have framed it, about the defense of marriage, it’s time for the bishops and the Knights to pour millions into Marriage Encounter and other movements that actually help sacramental marriages.

    4. We’re going to have to rely on good will here, aren’t we? Will the Obama Administration be magnaminous in victory? On the other hand, maybe it’s time for the Knights to add medical insurance to their portfolio.

    5. We’re going to have to live with it because austerity measures in Europe have been catastrophic and is clearly not the answer for better economics or social peace.

    6. Only if the bishops escalate. A lot of faithful Catholics might suggest they step back from politics, and leave it to lay people. They have enough on their plate to regain our trust.

    7. We need to reassess and get off the anti-gay bandwagon. Catholic conservatives are going to have to welcome liberals to the table, they will have to reject Cardinal George’s pronouncements of euthanasia. If conservatives are going to continue to dictate the public agenda, then they will have any number of faithful liberal Catholics criticizing every major pronouncement that is prudential and unilateral.

    8. Courage and prudence, yes. But also great creativity and persuasion.


    • You’ve pretty much tipped your hand here Todd. I wonder how you can square most of what you have said with anything that is remotely Catholic? By the way, i do think adultery and fornication should be illegal but guess who would oppose it Todd….

      • Chase says:

        Come to think of it – was fornication even illegal in the old Catholic confessional states?

        But seriously – where is the line to be drawn? Sending young girls who fall into sin and get pregnant to prison?

        • Well, I think the litigation in such matters would probably be more symbolic and might only have “teeth” when and if it came to things like divorce settlements and/or custody matters. So chill Chase and avoid extremism

          • Chase says:

            I wasn’t saying I would *want* to make those things illegal – I was just wondering where the line between “this behavior is bad and should be outlawed” and “this behavior is bad, but not a place for criminal law” is. For example, we obviously want to see abortion outlawed, and there is a case to be made for legal sanctions against adultery (after all, we punish people who shirk other contracts), but the case for criminalizing fornication seems to go further than most Catholic states of the past, and would involve some kind of religious police like they have in Saudi Arabia.

            Is there an actual line about what the law should and should not enforce, or is it simply prudential judgement of the lawmakers to know how far is too far?

            • Ever heard of statutory rape

              • Chase says:

                Yes, but isn’t that fornication between a minor and an adult?

                I’m not trying to cause trouble – I really want to know, and I know Sts Thomas and Augustine addressed the very question. Their answers focused more on the impossibility of controlling all such actions, but I guess I am wondering what kinds of actions would be right to control by law and which wouldn’t. Like it seems that if we could in practice control every single sin legally, we still should not do so, but I don’t know enough to say why we shouldn’t.

                • :-) Boy you’re really worked up about this. Be cool, I am not setting forth the agenda you suppose. It was just said in passing and I would favor some punitive measures for those violate the marriage bed but I do not know how that would work and if it existed at if would likely more become an issue only in divorce proceedings. But Chase I haven’t thought it through and it was only said in passing and is not the point of this post. Chill man, chill….

                  • Chase says:

                    Msgr., I hope you do not think I was accusing you of wanting to set up some Iranian religious police! Not in the least – I really was just wondering how church tradition decided what parts of Natural Law should or should not be enshrined in positive civil law.

                    I think we’re misunderstanding each other!

                • Rob says:

                  Chase…Take a look at this article from HPR which I think articulates what you are asking and shows one such example of civil law allowing (that is the key word) something innately sinful.

        • Bender says:

          Since our legal tradition comes from England, I do not see how the old Catholic confessional states are relevant, even if you were to specify which countries those are.

          As for Anglo-American law — fornication was (and is) a violation under the criminal common law, which is not “law” enacted by legislatures, but is recognized by courts as being offensive to right reason, as are other common law crimes, such as murder and robbery and larceny and rape and burglary and trespass and adultery and abortion.

      • Todd Flowerday says:

        ” … how you can square …?”

        First, not all of our talking points were moral or religious. And as for those that were, there is, as you asked, the virtue of prudence.

        Second, you’ve fallen into the classic trap of shooting the messenger because you don’t like the message, possibly transgressing CCC 2478 in the bargain. I believe that a Catholic believer can sin and still be a Catholic believer.

        • Betsy says:

          God doesn’t compromise & neither should we.

        • c matt says:

          There is a marked difference between a Catholic believer who sins, and one who no longer believes what is Catholic.

          • Todd Flowerday says:

            My point would be that many Catholics seem oblivious to that difference. Why do you suppose I would say that? What do you think I mean?

        • David Nordmark says:

          Humnae Vitae!!!

          • Betsy says:

            The Sacrament of Reconciliation needs a MAJOR revival!!! Responsibility starts with an honest examination of conscience that leads to the confessional & a commitment positive personal change. The promise of eternal salvation should be all the encouragement we need to RUN into the arms of Our Creator. The only catch is WE HAVE TO DO THE WORK to realize the embrace. DESTINATION JESUS is the ULTIMATE FREEDOM!!!

      • Brenda Isaacs says:

        Adultery and fornication is illegal in the eyes of God, however, we have always had separation of church and state here. That’s why so many people came here. The church can’t dictate the laws of country; it can only dictate the laws of God. If people have God’s laws written in their hearts, it won’t matter what the civil laws say. People of God must answer to a higher authority, and pray for those who are lost. There is a golden opportunity to pray for the lost in this country.

    • so disgusted says:

      “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.” Valerie Jarrett

      No, good will is not what I am expecting. I feel like the character in Flannery O’Connor’s book, “I’m too mean to be a saint, but I might be a martyr, if they kill me really fast.

      This will be slow and painful. Lord have mercy on us!

  4. Bender says:

    How will the Church be able to articulate her positions, increasingly at odds with the platform of the Democratic party and be able to resist the (unfair) charge that we are merely the Republican Party at prayer?

    The charge is absurd if only because the Republican establishment really doesn’t care about those issues. Most of them are wholly incapable of mounting any kind of real defense of life, marriage, family, etc. Even policies on those economic issues they purport to care so much about are weakly presented and defended. A party of worms they are. It is hard to win when one’s opponent is zealous and passionate and you are about as inspiring as a bucket of warm spit.

    • Bender says:

      This really does raise the stakes and place a greater burden on our priests and bishops to say and do what is necessary. Much of that, unless you want to crack your skulls ramming your heads up against brick walls by engaging in public policy trying to influence politicians, is going to have to involve the intense grunt-work of trying to change hearts one person at a time. Rather than a top-down approach, it will need to be a bottom-up approach.

      And that also means that more than our priests and bishops are going to have to get in the game. More of the faithful laity are going to have to step up and start seeking to evangelize and convert their neighbors and co-workers and family members rather than expect politicians to listen to them or for government to be anything other than what it has always been, a greater threat to liberty than a protector of it. No more can lay people sit back and hide in the anonymity of the group, expecting “the Church” to take care of this or that. Instead, it is on each and every one of us individually to do this work.

      It may be that we might never bring public policy into conformance with justice, charity, and truth. We might fight for some improvement here and there, but this great experiment called “America” might have run its course. We have prided ourselves on being “the last best hope of earth,” but that was always a false hope — it is folly to place your hope and trust in man, who is weak and fickle and temporary, rather than in the One who is True and Eternal.

      Perhaps we should have always expected that there would be difficult days ahead for us, that ours would be a long via crucis. Certainly that is the message of Fatima and the Book of Revelation. But we also have the assurance of our Blessed Mother that her Immaculate Heart will triumph in the end.

  5. workingclass artist says:

    Cardinal George said in February that we will lose our schools, our hospitals and our charities in 2 years if HHS is not overturned.

    I am so very sad Msgr. Pope.

  6. Maggie Goff says:

    I’m very sad for our country tonight, and even sadder about all the “Catholics” who voted for Obama, and the mental gymnastics they had to go through to justify it. This is the most morally corrupt administration I’ve ever seen. I am also not looking forward to the economic collapse which will be coming, but oddly I’m not afraid or anxious. Pray ceaselessly. St. Francis de Sales: Be at Peace. Divine Office. The Rosary. St. Michael’s Chaplet. Divine Mercy. Divine Mercy Way of the Cross. The Mass and Eucharist every day. Our Guardian Angels. Etc. And pray especially for our Priests, Bishops, Pope Benedict.

  7. Clinton R. says:

    The days may be upon faithful Catholics to ready ourselves for martyrdom. With radical liberalism now freely running rampant, the distinction between faithful Catholics and “Catholics” in name only will become much more apparent. May Our Lord strengthen us for the trials ahead. +JMJ+

  8. Charles Curtis says:

    Dear Father,

    In all humility, I am not sure that this election means much of anything at all in and of itself. It really only reveals what is inevitable, I think.

    I’d respectfully suggest that culturally pandemic sins such as abortion and homosexuality are not political problems. Keeping Republicans in office, or turning the entire country, every office, over to the Republicans, will not solve the problem, because the problem is essentially spiritual and only incidentally (accidentally) political.

    We have “safe” (for the “mother”) abortion simply because it is possible to have it. Excuse the crude Marxist analysis, but all such useful technology is revolutionary, because it is inescapable. The birth control pill is a technological fact, which is why we have low birth rates, small families. Just as we have long lives because of modern medicine. We use these things, do these things, *because we can,* because the worldly benefits are ineluctable. Like with the alphabet, wheel, printing press, fractional reserve banking, insurance, mechanical loom and plow, social security, penicillin, automobiles, the internet and all that. If we don’t use it, we often inescapably *materially* impoverish ourselves. It’s that simple. Worldly “poverty,” or worldly “wealth.” Worldly “power,” or worldly “servitude.”

    What I’m saying here is that the pro-life cause, as we’ve been fighting it, is basically more or less calvary charging machine guns. Time to get ourselves some tanks..

    The Republicans lost tonight because they – as they are constituted – are hypocrites professing to care about chastity, when what they really care about is money. Money for themselves.

    “Homosexuality” (a 19th century coinage, nonsensical etymologically, because biologically spiritually human sex means babies) is only a political issue (in that we’re “normalizing” it, and stuff like “gay” “marriage” are now appearing on our ballots) because we “normal” people have ceded the semantic (spiritual) ground.

    There is no such thing as “gay sex” and therefore no such thing as “gay marriage.” The real spiritual (and hence political) fight we have as Catholics is against no-fault divorce.

    You want to stop “homos” from marrying? Father, please. Let them all dress up as the Red Queen and do as they damn please. We – Catholics, supposedly sane people – should not participate in their charade.

    Let us order our own houses. If we can, they are irrelevant. They, after all, are us, and if we repent of our sodomy, “gays” and abortion and all that will no longer be problems. We nearly are all sodomites now, condoms pills abortion porn, we are pickled in it all. So then.

    It’s not about elections, but repentance.

    Anyway, I for one am glad Mr. Obama is still our president. He’s charismatic, black (which when I am abroad, as I usually am, is a sweet. When Mr. Bush was president I was continually being told by snotty Europeans how they hated him. Now I get to dish it back at them. The French. Let them insult us when they elect a black or Muslim. For the moment they can shut up and admire us. Because we have a half white man with a Jewish brother and several dozen Muslims in his family as our head of State. Let the masonic horde all venerate him in silence.. Preserving me from the sin of being heinously annoyed at their idiocy..) and he can speak English. He also is scandal free.

    What else do want from Caesar? Seriously? What?

    Are you making politics into religion? Do you really want Romney Messiah?

    Whatever, Father, I am seriously disappointed in you here. Mr. Romney is a “Latter Day Saint.” Whatever Mr. Obama’s other faults he at least isn’t a member of the “Restored Church.” Crypto-Muslim, liberal protestant, radical secular humanist, whatever else, he is at least more or less in keeping with the rest of our enlightened elite. The Mormons are to my mind in some sense a much more absurd and somehow virulent attack on the Church than the countlessly re-proliferasting recapitulations of Voltaire’s old gig that our Founding Fathers’ bequeathed us.

    Don’t tell me the Republic’s threatened because we failed to elected a Mormon, Father. Please.

    I’m tired. I hope you understand me. May the Lord Jesus Christ bless you Father. Goodnight..

    • Jan says:

      This is the singular, most ridiculous and nauseating piece of tripe I’ve ever seen on this forum. And what is there to admire about a guy who is hastening the demise of a nation? Unless of course you despise us as much as ‘the president’ does. Look around the world – white nations don’t elect black men to run them.

    • Well Charles, I wondered if I should post this reply since it not only misses the point of the main article but has lots of thinly veiled bigotry but any way, here it is. Jan’s reply may not be the only one, written or unwritten who find your writing here offensive to say the least.

    • Josh says:

      Amen Charles! I’m tired of people using my faith to extend hate. It hurts even more that Bishops are condoning it. What ever happened to caring for the poor? Loving one another? These things are pushing people away from the Church. As much as I am in complete agreement with Catholic canon, I strongly believe that the Church has chosen 2 issues to believe in, and forget the rest. Just because Catholic Institutions will have to cover their employees, who may not be Catholic, for birth control, does not mean their employees need to use it. Let Catholics choose to remain faithful if they so desire to.

      If the Church believes that society should live by every thing they believe in, then that would also mean prohibition should have returned if Romney was elected, as Mormons do not drink alcohol. Obviously, he wouldn’t do that, but it is just as if the United States of American implemented every Catholic belief. We are the United States of America, not the United Catholic States of America. All people have the right to their own beliefs and to make their own decisions.

      • taad says:

        I am a simple person. What Charles wrote simply makes no sense to me what so ever. All I can think is what Our Lady said: “The proud will be confused in their in most thoughts.”

      • Repent and believe the GospeI! says:

        Dear Josh think before you speak:

        What a lame remark: “Just because Catholic Institutions will have to cover their employees, who may not be [a] Catholic, for birth control, does not mean their employees need to use it.”

        FORCING, Catholic employers to pay for this GARBAGE, is EVIL. That’s MATERIAL COOPERATION!!! WE believe in HEAVEN and HELL, and we don’t want to cooperate with EVIL. ARE YOU THIS DENSE?

        Lame remark #2: “All people have the right to their own beliefs and to make their own decisions”
        YEAH, little boy you tell it!. Except for Catholic employers who must reject their own beliefs!!!
        LIBERALS never play fair!!!!
        This is the logic of reprobates!
        This is what happened when the cesspool of immorality enters Josh’s brain!
        I’m sorry that I am harsh on this post Msgr., but 56,000,000 abortions is just too much for me!
        I see Divine Judgement coming around the corner. Before, Obamination Clown took office, evil was at a distant but now evil is messing with the Church. And this is because I never heard priests spoke up against birth control during homilies in my 45 years on earth. Bishops are now talking about it, but it is too little too late!
        Now we are reaping what we sow!
        Ha, the worst president in the history of the U.S, won the reelection! What? How could this happened? I hate to say it – but demons are protecting Obama, and people are just becoming more immoral.
        See, the Devil is not content with reprobates. He wants good people to lose their faith, be persecuted and possibly lose their souls if they don’t persevere! That is his supreme “sticking it” to God. The Devil uses cowardly catholics to “stick it” to God by not speaking up against evils. And now he uses fake catholics like Biden, Pelosi and co. to doubly “stick it” to God. Oh are are we in a mess up big time! How sad when society lost its logic!

      • I Like the Church Fathers says:

        Where there’s a conflict between Church and Country, Church ought to come first.

    • Robertlifelongcatholic says:

      Charles Curtis starts out this rant with ” In all humility.” I don’t get any sense of an once of humility in the bigoted arrogance of his argument. This sounds like something typical from an enlightened intellectual elitist. As you end, we understand you better than you probalbly hoped we would and I for one also became tired of reading you pathos.

  9. Sammy Balpedas says:

    Are the central “tenants” of our faith chancery officials renting office space downtown? (the rest of the article was spot-on)

  10. AnneG says:

    Thanks, Msgr Pope, There are 2 of the 4 sins that cry out to heaven in the Democratic platform, sodomy and harming children. Looks like we will have to pay for the sins of our nation for both.
    Obama Administration magnanimous in victory? “Reward our friends and punish our enemies” by Valerie Jarrett last week.

  11. Vijaya says:

    This too shall pass. In the meantime, we must fight the good fight at every level — home, school, work. The faithful shall gain helps from our friends up high — St. Michael, St. Joseph, Mary our Mother, pray for us.

  12. Steve C says:

    Pray for perseverance! Pray for zeal of the martyrs! We are the CHURCH MILITANT!!! We are hear at this time for a reason. God put us here at this time for a reason. We are all called to be great saints in the time we exist. We will not back down, we will not comply, CREDO!

    “Victories of the Martyrs” by St Alphonsus if they can do it so can we.

    Also, I vote for secession from this disfunctional voluntary union of states but we need to clean up & focus on local & state elections/gov’t where true power resides & STOP looking at Mordor on the Potomaic to rule 300,000,000 people’s lives from coast to coast. We do not have a republic b/c we are out of scale.

    Keep up your great work, Msgr!

    Viva Christo Rey!

  13. Still but a Sprout says:

    A Roman Catholic priest through pristine logic, firm presentation and generous spirit guided me away from suicide. Since that time I have been knocked over by the enormity of talent in the Church’s religious corps. Example got me to AA, example got me back to the sacraments. Can example save a nation? For the first time I am comfortable leaving that up to God. I’ll do what I can without jeopardizing my eternal voyage. If the Nation has a soul then that soul has ONLY the appeal to God left at this point. Its sad so many choose to leave the opportunity to stand closer to God.

  14. Alicia G. Mendiola says:

    In particular here in the Philippines we will still continue to fight against a Bill if becomes a Law will open a ‘slippery road’ to Abortion. With the present unfavorable development in your country, the fight will now be in a greater degree. Planned Parenthood Programs had been here a long time and had been in direct contact with Non-Government Organizations who are pro-choice. Its sad day for America and Our Church.

  15. Crowhill says:

    I was very disappointed at the lame, almost non-existent reaction of the Catholic Church to the same-sex marriage vote in Maryland.

    Where were the commercials? Where were the road signs? Where were the interviews and lectures and public forums? Where were the homilies?

  16. Joe Dirt says:

    For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.

  17. Daniel says:

    We musn’t forget the theological virtue of hope. Blessed John XXIII had great wisdom to trust the working of the Holy Spirit, as well as great optimism, which shines forth in his opening address of the Second Vatican Council:

    “In the daily exercise of our pastoral office, we sometimes have to listen, much to our regret, to voices of persons who, though burning with zeal, are not endowed with too much sense of discretion or measure. In these modern times they can see nothing but prevarication and ruin. They say that our era, in comparison with past eras, is getting worse, and they behave as though they had learned nothing from history, which is, none the less, the teacher of life. They behave as though at the time of former Councils everything was a full triumph for the Christian idea and life and for proper religious liberty.

    We feel we must disagree with those prophets of gloom, who are always forecasting disaster, as though the end of the world were at hand.

    In the present order of things, Divine Providence is leading us to a new order of human relations which, by men’s own efforts and even beyond their very expectations, are directed toward the fulfilment of God’s superior and inscrutable designs. And everything, even human differences, leads to the greater good of the Church

  18. Lou Donnelly says:

    I was greatly saddened with the result, but it was not unexpected. We as a nation have abandoned God and his laws. Since we spend less time with Him, guess who came in to fill the void. So as a nation we got what we deserve. In the process some of us are distressed.

  19. Scotty says:

    Today is the day for the USCCB – and Cardinal Dolan personally – to both show graciousness to the President on his re-election and to reiterate in the clearest language possible: We Will Not Comply.

  20. Yolanda says:

    “This will require Church opposition and generally embroil us in many public disputes”. Or, the church could focus on the priorities that Christ set: love your neighbor, feed the poor, shelter the homeless …

    • But doesn’t your list include opposition to abortion, i.e. don’t infants in the womb need to be sheltered and fed, are they not poor? Should we not oppose that they be killed? Is that not part of our concern for the poor? Further does promiscuity and the dilution of the meaning of marriage harm children who are best raised by a mother and father living together. IOW your “way out” is not really a way out at all.

    • Jan says:

      Oh.My.Gosh!!!!! What a novel idea! You mean, like. collect money at church to distribute to the poor and needy, maybe send missionaries around the world to help the sick and starving in other places? How about some opening some places where people can get clothing and food right here in the USA!! And do this stuff mostly while they spit on us and do everything they can to destroy our Church? I’m on board!

      Monsignor! Call the bishop! Call the Pope!!!

    • Steve M says:

      You are right the Church should focus on the priorities Christ set. I will re-read the Bible a bit today. I thought Christ often found himself at odds with the authorities but I am sure you are right. He was just a very nice man that only taught that we should love our neighbor. It is much easier just to ignore that bit about Loving God with your whole heart being the first and most important commandment. If the government makes a decision that would require us to not do what God has taught us ot be right we can at least feel good about being nice to our neighbor. As you clearly point the way, we should not let this morality stuff get in the way of being nice to people. Christ clearly never corrected anyone or never called anyone a hypocrat, well at least if you ignore those bits of the Bible and Church teaching. The best way as you show is to ignore the hard parts that would make us stand up against any political view point. We should just not worry about abortion or the death penalty or anything too messy. We should just keep writing checks to the food bank so we can feel good about ourselves without letting morality which is very hard ruin our day. Mother Teresa was really doing the right thing by helping the poor and destitute but when she started talking about the horror of abortion she just went way too far. If a mother wants to kill her baby then she should be able to. You are exactly right Yolanda. don’t let any facts or teachings of the Church or even the Truth about what Christ taught get in the way.

  21. Paul says:

    The Catholic Church’s flirtations with liberation theology based social teaching has caused this mess in the Catholic conscience. This is also pervasive in other sects in the faith preventing us from teaching the full truth of the Gospel. This is a painful lesson from God to purge the leaven of this false teaching from our midst.

  22. I Like the Church Fathers says:

    I think it’s useful to remember that the Church has been in a tough spot many times before and not just during the persecutions that ended in the early fourth century.

    For example, in the aftermath of the French Revolution, both Pius VI and his successor, Pius VII, were placed under arrest by Napoleon Bonaparte and were forcibly exiled from Rome. Their offence was not supporting Napoleon in his aim of conquering all Europe. When Pius VI was arrested and died in exile after a long reign, many smug European securalists jubilantly declared that the papacy was finished and that the Church that they hated so much would collapse soon after. Of course, that didn’t happen.

    As was the case over 200 years ago, Catholics need to get through this by praying a lot and remaining uncompromising on the non-negotiable aspects of the Faith, regardless of how bad things get. Although I don’t think that Christian martyrdom will be making a comeback any time soon, I think it would be wise to remember the martyrs’ sacrifices and pray to them now more than ever.

    Saints Stephen, Lawrence, Sixtus II, Agnes, Cecilia, Agatha, Cosmas and Damian, pray for us.

  23. Ken says:

    Perhaps bishops and priests will stop talking in code on abortion and homosexual issues, and their relation to the voting booth in parishes that are known to be moderate and liberal.

    Hispanic Catholics overwhelmingly supported candidates who favor pro-abortion, pro-homosexual behavior issues. Did they hear anything from their bishops and priests that was clear as day on this? Or were the homilies all in code? (“Vote for Jesus! Vote for love!”)

    What was not in code was how wonderful giving in-state college tuition is for illegal immigrants in Maryland. Maybe the energy spent on that issue could instead be spent on more important issues?

    The future of the Catholic vote rests with Hispanics. Time to start focusing on how they hear things and how they act and vote. No more speaking in code, please.

  24. Bill says:

    The catholic bishops and priests in general failed its flock. If I hear vote your conscience one more time I might scream. Catholics need clear language. Abortion and homosexual sex are sins Voting for politicians who support these things is also a sin. Is there any ambiguity in what I just said? If the bishops and priests rallied around that kind of speech we would have a more Godly country.

    • Jamie R says:

      If Catholics need a bishop or priest to tell them directly to vote against abortion and gay marriage, then I have to scream at the state of our Catholic flock. I do not believe that Catholics in a position to hear a bishop or their priest – at Mass, or through the media – vote en mass for anti-Catholic positions. It is the Catholics who are lukewarm in their faith – those who have made their own covenant that allows them to pick and choose, or, in the case of some of our senior Catholic politicians, leave their faith at home. These people will not hear, let alone respond to a bishop’s direct message.

  25. John Treacy says:

    Todd says abortionis a matterof individual choice for those concerned. The Church–and biology–tell us that an unborn child is an early stage human being. This tiny human slated for destruction in ways too horrible to describe or even imagine, has no “choice” at all. He or she is murderd witout friend, without lament. Our hearts have grown so hardened by the extent pof this pitiless slaughter that even people of ostensible good will can call it merely a matter of adult choice, like chocolate or vanilla.God help us!.

    • Todd Flowerday says:

      John, keep in mind that I’m reporting both a factual truth and a moral reality. I don’t approve of immoral behavior, but I notice people engage in it regardless of what I think, believe, or do.

      The truth is that every person has the power to make choices between good and evil, whether it is lawful or not, whether clergy and religious leaders approve or not.

      I’m not going to allow other so-called Catholics to twist my words into some suggestion that I lack morality or virtue because I’m telling the truth about the world as it is, not as others would like it. CCC 2478, my friends. If I say I’m a pro-life Catholic, you are all obliged to take me at my word, no matter how much you dislike me personally.

      • Steve M says:

        We are twisting nothing of what you say. We are simply flecked what you have said back to you in hopes you can see the nonsensical aspects. As far as I can understand, you believe yourself to be a moral person. Because some people act in sinful ways and you don’t control them then there is really nothing wrong with what they have done. They chose it. You have no responsibility to your fellow men to try and help them reach Heaven by trying to create a moral country as long as you have tried to make sure they have food to eat etc.

        Good luck with that. You are

        • Todd Flowerday says:

          Steve, it seems you’re just imagining what you want to read into someone who has a prudentially different approach than yours. You seem to suggest I find nothing wrong in sinful behavior because I don’t parrot the same condemnation you offer.

          I’m afraid you are indeed twisting what I’ve written here. And our blog host seemed to take the lead in a lack of reading comprehension. And still no answers to my direct questions, eh? Do you want to persist in misreading people?

          • Steve M says:

            Todd, I have read so many of your comments on this blog over the past few months. I take you at your word that you are Pro-Life. I am comfortable with what little contact we have that I would not like you personally.

            You are probably right. You have the insight into the truth and the rest of us just refuse to see your vision.

            “3. There’s nothing about same-sex unions that is objectively sinful. Unions imply sexual relationships, but if the Church were serious about addressing what it sees as sinful, they would move to criminalize all sexual activity outside of marriage. I suspect they are unwilling to do this. If the issue is, as some Catholics have framed it, about the defense of marriage, it’s time for the bishops and the Knights to pour millions into Marriage Encounter and other movements that actually help sacramental marriages.”

            You wrote the comments I have pasted here. This is very twisted as compared to the teaching of the Church but I am certain you are comfortable with it. The Church is not advocating for criminalizing “gay marriage” but advocating that this cannot be equated to the biologically natural form of marriage between a man and a woman. Two men or two women cannot conceive children in any natural way. This one is a fact. Evolution has not created an adaptation that enables same sex couples to conceive and give birth without a non-natural intervention. You clearly state that the Bishops should not say a word about ” gay marriage” unless they are demanding laws against adultery and fornication. What a strange bar you set. Either the Church advocates for everything identified as sin to be a crime or they need to be silent. So it makes sense to you that the Bishops should demand a law requiring people to attend Mass on Christmas or stay silent on religious liberty. Liberty gives the right for individuals to attend the church of their choice or not but unless they Church pushes to make it a crime they need to just stay quiet.

            You don’t need my help twisting your logic up. I am saying a Hail Mary for you right after I hit submit.

            • Todd Flowerday says:

              Steve, thanks for the prayers. Truth is, we all need them. And I’m not any different.

              What I see in the movement to expand civil unions or “marriage” to people of the same sex is not so much what is indisputably contrary to Catholic teaching, that people cannot morally have sex outside of marriage. I see the subsidiary aspects that allow two or more people to live together as families, roommates, or whatever, and these have benefits to society.

              I openly ask the question about just what, besides the genital activity that few to nobody seems to be talking about, is wrong with civil arrangements for different combinations of persons. Suppose my aged mother wishes to live with one of her children. Is that an arrangement that is somehow a cultural improvement over a nursing home, or my mother being on public assistance, or some similar thing?

              You speak of evolution, but the fact is that a small percentage of human beings are born with same-sex attraction. If some people are born gay or lesbian, are they not created that way by God? And if so, does not natural law suggest they live life how they are made.

              “You clearly state that the Bishops should not say a word about ” gay marriage” unless they are demanding laws against adultery and fornication.”

              No, I didn’t.

              “Two men or two women cannot conceive children in any natural way. This one is a fact.”

              Also a fact that two elderly people cannot conceive children. But they are permitted to marry. Likewise, my wife and I weren’t able to conceive children. We adopted. But our marriage is as sacramental as that of any other Catholic.

              The bishops are free to speak and teach as they see fit on this or any other issue. But to be persuasive and effective, they are going to have to bring a deeper theological insight to the discussion.

  26. Ray says:

    When the Church employs Canons 915 and 916 I will believe she is serious about her teachings. You can’t have folks claiming to be Catholic running around spewing counter Catholic teachings and nothing happens to them. They tarnish the Church, the Church hierarchy and the rest of us Catholics in the pews by their actions and words. Let’s face it, the Church won’t publicly denounce their actions for fear of dimminishing returns in the collection basket. Until we realize their open castigation is part of the solution and not words but actions, our Church remains part of the problem.

    • Mary says:

      Joe Biden
      Nancy Pelosi
      John Kerry
      A Kennedy, pick one, any one.

      All famous, very public, Catholics who actively work against the Church.
      If the Bishops don’t do anything about these famous, very public, “Catholics”,
      why should the folks sitting in the pews listen?
      I know, we don’t want to be ex-communicating people, it is not very nice and it is poor public relations, but how can you stand there and tell us that we must support life when these very public “Catholics” are not rebuked, are not criticized, and not publicly corrected, are not refused Communion when they actively work against the Church, actively support abortion under all circumstances?
      Wouldn’t it be great if the Church could have its own “Chick-Fil-A” moment?

  27. Lilie Awsumb says:

    Dear Msgr.
    Your article was excellent because it had truth and love. As I pray for our homeland, which is literally going to pot, I will pray that God bless you and your brother priests with all the gifts you need to lead us through this darkness into eternal victory!
    Deus in adjutorium nos intende, Domine ad juvandum nos festina!
    Thank you!

  28. Jamie R says:

    The central question is not how the Church will articulate her positions – it is how WE as the Church live them out in our daily lives and parishes. Too many Catholics are concerned about national events and issues, important though they are, and not enough about issues at their own doorstep.

    How many Catholics attend Mass? Only attend Mass and are no different from their secular neighbors the rest of the week? How many seek to do God’s work at their parish center, at their homeless center, with their kids at the weekend, with their neighbors in an ANC? How many of us pass by a hundred opportunities to live our faith every week? There are so many ways for us to live out our faith every day – in situations under our control, under our influence. We cannot just bemoan the state of the nation – we can pray about it, take political action about it, for sure – but we cannot ignore the work God gives us to do right in front of us.

  29. Susan says:

    Politics is downstream from culture. As disheartening as it is, enough Americans have chosen to embrace Obama’s big government vision. These people have been formed by main stream media and the government educational system. These influences cannot be overcome by (maybe) attending Mass one day a week or by spending a few hours a day under the influence of faithful parents. We will only be able to change this culture by changing the formation of young people and it is going to be a long hard haul. A strong push must be made to discourage public education. Reforms in the Catholic schools must accelerate. Homeschooling encouraged and facilitated Many will reject this, work with the ones that don’t. Proper formation is the key.

  30. Thom says:

    1. If the Democratic Party in general, and Catholic politicians in particular, decades long support for the merciless barbaric slaughter of tens of millions, or even hundreds of millions, of innocent children has not (and let’s be honest) led to any noticeable or measurable breach with the Church, why should it now?

    2. See #1. Again,you could have written these three sentences 5 years ago, or 10, or 20, and also 30 etc. This is not anything new under the sun. Is there some secret number of slaughtered children that the UCCSB is waiting for the U.S. to hit before they “really” put their foot down?

    3. I am quite sure you yourself have read the stories of priests from coast to coast preaching in support of “gay marriage” to the applause of their congregations with apparent impunity. It seems these days that if a woman was denied communion after announcing to the congregation that she was in sexual relationships with multiple lesbian partners and was a full time abortionist who just arrived from a busy day at her clinic, the priest would be immediately removed as well as publicly humiliated by the Cardinal for good measure.

    4. And if that does not work perhaps a strongly worded letter to Katherine Sebelius and Nancy Pelosi warning them of an even strongly worded letter if they persist.

    5. It is not of little consequence that the moral hazard of what will in just a few short years be a $20+ trillion national debt has happened with the Bishops always advocating more and more and endless federal social spending. “We [the Bishops] ask congress to increase spending on_________(name any one of thousands of social programs here). As far as I know, in no document of the Church is there a teaching that in oder to help alleviate the hardships of the poor, government is morally obligated to go into debt and continually spend money it does not have (and at this point can never repay).

    If Catholics are applauding pro “gay marriage” sermons by their priests at the Mass, then perhaps a few Bishops have some explaining to do.

  31. Marcy says:

    I am a new Catholic, and I LOVE my church. Yet, there are +/- 30 million Catholics who do not attend mass. When I taught in a particular Middle school the Principal had a STRONG convicition that every teacher was responsible for the management of their classroom. He would get you help if you didn’t know how to control your class. However you (That is Every Teacher) were not allowed to have a class full of confusion. He would get dismiss a Teacher whose classroom management was bad, and it did not improve. That said, in my 20 years of theaching this was the best school I ever worked at. The Catholic church needs to love it’s on people back into the fold, then everything else will fall inline. How can we influence Country if we can not help our fellow Catholic brother.
    – A 8 month old Catholic’s opinion

    • Steve says:

      Welcome to the family. I commend you for your courage and perseverance in entering the Church, and be assured of my prayers for you.

      I’m not sure I see the connection between the principal (who sounds like he really respected and supported his teachers–the best way to respect and support the students!) and the 30 million Catholics who don’t attend Mass. Perhaps it’s late, perhaps I’m dim this evening, but I’d appreciate if you could make that connection a little more lucid.

      Again, congratulations, and may your energy and enthusiasm for your faith and love for God spread like wildfire to those around you! God bless you!

  32. Greg says:

    Monsignor Pope,

    Persecution for the Church is not necessarily bad as it will separate the wheat from the chaff. I remember Fr John Hardon saying something to the effect of “In the future only fervent Catholics will last. The rest will be swept away by the Culture of Death.”

    This will happen sooner than you think.

  33. Timothy says:

    Remember that democracy is that form of government which says, “Give us Barabbas.” That’s what that country, that we used to know as America, asked for last night.

  34. RichardC says:

    Life and human nature are non-negotiable.

  35. Keithp says:

    I’m very sad for my country.

    But, the one item that does stand out for me is the opportunity for redemptive suffering. Every time in my life when illness and injury could have overcome me, I had only to look to the crucifix hanging over the front door of my home.

    This is not a time for either whining or monday morning quarterbacking. This is a time for serious prayer and mortification.

    Stout hearts Brothers and Sisters.

    • Robertlifelongcatholic says:

      Thank God we’re not Tibetan Buddhist or we would be adding immolation of the list of things to do.

  36. Craig says:

    I pray that our Church finally, publicly exercises her Authority and stands against the government. No more complying or congratulations to the president. The bishops should say we aren’t paying fines for the HHS mandate demands, nor will we comply. Let them push back. Our leadership is a poor example, overall, compared to the past. May God and Mary guide and protect us all.

  37. taad says:

    This whole election and the exit polls on why people voted the way they did is really bizarre. Our country has a lot of people who think one way, and then vote the exact opposite. All logic is gone. We make smoking illegal, and legalize marijuana? We are all about our health, yet we vote for things that harm our health. We say we want freedom of choice, yet vote someone who is taking freedoms away, like the Religious Freedom, health care choices. We are told we should be able to vote our conscience, yet we put someone in office who will deny people the right to follow their conscience. Large numbers say the economy is bad, and the country is heading the wrong direction, yet we put the same people back in charge to keep on going. Pardon me, but could I get off this ship at the next stop? I think everyone has lost their minds!

  38. Dan Buckley says:

    It is absolutely essential that our bishops not fall into the trap of closing our facilities for helping the needy because of the HHS mandate. Make the government close them! Make them the ones who abandoned the needy, or we risk the accusation of abandoning them because we could not get our own way

    • Steve says:

      It’s still going to happen. The rhetoric will be that we put dogma over our care for and love for the poor. If we really loved the poor, we would have complied and continued the legal battles. Look at how the situation is kept ongoing: Aside from the widely-held opinion that Obamacare is systemically problematic, it does, at least in theory, provide benefits to those in need–the poor, the elderly. Ok, the Church can bear with that. Then you have the HHS mandate–all employers must provide free contraception. Where the hell did that come from? It came from the plan that the religious right would balk at it, and they can get painted as the bad guy for opposing the needed healthcare reform and providing healthcare to the poor and elderly. We’re now the bad guys. We’re not trying to make contraception illegal–we just don’t want to support our providing it. If the left simply removed the little piece about contraception from the whole big package, then there would be no big fight over “religious freedom.” But they’re making an issue of it so they can make us the bad guys. Just like they did with forcing through funding of Planned Parenthood on the stalled budget–conservatives didn’t want it to go through because PP is an abortion factory. Liberals wouldn’t take it out, and then blamed conservatives for blocking the budget, objecting to healthcare funds, and using poor women as a political tool, when it was really the liberals who valued PP funding more than getting the healthcare budget passed. And back on the HHS–why would they make the exception? They WANT us out of hospitals and schools. They’re in a win-win, and we’re screwed (politically speaking).

  39. Wendy says:

    Marcy, very nice. New converts (which I was 7 years ago) have very clear vision.

  40. Nathan says:

    We have to realize we simply don’t live in the same culture that Americans did 50, or even 20, years ago. In fact, the country has been drifting to the left for the last 100 yrs. 50 years ago conservatives opposed no fault divorce and liberals supported it. Now both groups support it, with liberals pushing for gay “marriage” and conservatives opposing it. 50 yrs ago the fight was over the legalization of abortion. Now both parties (neither McCain nor Romney were staunchly pro-life) accept abortion (at least in cases of rape, incest, and life of the mother) and fight over things like informed consent and mandatory ultrasounds. The same holds true for economic issues. Conservatives in the 1920’s would consider the Republican Party platform of 2012 to be socialist. As things continue to drift leftward “conservatives” stake out positions on the “right” that would have been leftist a generation or two before. The only solution, as far as I can tell, is to evangelize the culture and radically transform it into a republic dedicated to Christ the King. We need to transform the culture, the politics will follow.

  41. Peter III says:

    It’s time for the Church to take the gloves off. The Church needs to begin excommunicating the “Catholic” politicians who are pro-abortion and pro-gay issues. That will send a clear message where the Church stands. Had prominent “Catholic” politicians been scolded and brought back 20-30 years ago we wouldn’t be in this situation now. The Bishop’s Crosier has a crook on the end to catch and pull back wayward sheep, it’s time they start using it!

  42. Ann B says:

    The church can do a great deal to change the future by reaching out to the many new voters that are recent Latino immigrants and who come from somewhat Catholic backgrounds in many cases, but may not trust the leadership of the church. It is never illegal to participate in parish life, or prayers. If Latino voters were significant in national Democratic election, the bishops need to understand it is THEIR people who are voting democrat. And be glad that sixty percent of CATHOLICS voted for the Republican president. That is a sea change! Be of good courage.

  43. too simplistic and post hoc propter hoc. Remember the kids of the 50s were the ones who threw the revolution.

    • Rick DeLano says:

      Msgr Pope, the Council is not the root of what has befallen it, it is the flowering.

      When the Catholic Church preaches what She has taught always and everywhere, and rejects the modernist triumph of the Council and its implementation, then it will be morning.

      Here’s the wake up call.

      When you hear this preached again, it will be time to evangelize. Until then………

      “There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.)
      “We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)
      “The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)

      • Steve says:

        Such a narrow, elitist limitation of God’s love for all His children. I’m not ready to say all Muslims, non-Christian Asians, Native Americans, and people who have left the Church because of the hypocrisy and scandal of Christians are all burning in hell for all eternity because they did not die in full explicit communion with the institutional Church. Two things the Council did do right–they balanced the different models of the Church that existed throughout her history, not just the institutional Church that was built (against her nature) to try to hobble Europe through the middle ages, drawing battle lines among Christians and between Christians and non-Christians–and they backed away from the legalistic (pharisaic) restrictions of God’s love and forgiveness that He was permitted to exercise, mostly coming out of the stormy saga of the Reformation and the Council of Trent. It would be easy of life were as black and white as it once seemed. But God’s reality is not black and white–life is messy, exciting, and always in tension and transition. The reality is it’s going to take at least another 100 years to really unpack Vatican II. The immediate aftermath was very novel and liberal. Now (as far as Church teaching goes) it’s swinging back toward the middle. It’ll pendulum into overly conservative, back to overly liberal, and eventually will settle where it’s supposed to be. That’s how these things tend to go.

  44. Joe says:

    Stand fast Holy Mother Church against the HHS mandate. Close hospitals and schools if we have to. This nation needs a wake up call. Viva Cristo Rey!

  45. DC Catholic says:

    The answer to the culture of death? We need to fill the baby gap:

    “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” GEN 1:28

    Deus vult!

    The future might be more religious than we think:

  46. Dan Buckley says:

    It is imperative that the bishops not take the bait and close any of our institutions in the wake of things like the HHS mandate. To do so would allow them to say that we put our beliefs before our love for the poor. Make them close us down! Make them the ones who deprive the poor of assistance. We must not look as if we place our intransigence before our love.

  47. KathrynF says:

    Thank you, Msgr., for laying this out so clearly. We are in the fight of our lives because these democrats are the meanest, most intolerant, self-righteous politicians we have ever seen. They will work quickly to consolidate their power. It will not be long before our tax exemption will be gone and our bishops and priests will be imprisioned. They will work to take over the internet and they will silence the opposition. Perhaps, this is all part of God’s plan to restore the moral authority of the bishops after the sex scandals. Moral authority will return when the bishops go to jail for the truth. I hope they begin to speak loudly, forcefully, and clearly about the sins of the democrat politicians who claim to be Catholic. Public excommunication is in order. This I hope that the words, “Be not afraid.” will ring in the hearts of our leaders.

  48. Tina G says:

    Monsignor, you and I are just about the same age. I got involved in politics locally two years ago, after I had been thinking about what I could do to help this country, AT THE SAME TIME you wrote a blog concerning how to help the poor! It stirred me so strongly, that I tink I can fairly accurately paraphrase what you said. In a nutshell, you stated that you believed that poor should be helped at the lowest form of government/community and that the church should be at the center of this help. Then you ended with “But how?”

    Monsignor, I got involved in politics almost immediately after reading that post and I have prayed for you every evening since. I also took a two-year class that studied all the original documents and writings of the Founders of this country, along with economics, world religions, ets. I went so far as to teach an adult class at church, called God and the Constitution. I knew what I had to do because you spoke out and you did it clearly. I have forwarded numerous of your blogs, whenever they contained anything political.

    Here is the point I am trying to make: Based on the sheer number of responses every time you do write something political and on the past election’s results, there is a very clear need for people to be able to dialogue with their priests and bishops concerning politics. Notice I said ‘dialogue’ and not ‘hear from’ or ‘read a letter from’ their priests and bishops. Catholics have questions and they want answers, and in the silence and/or ambiguity of the priests and bishops, secularists are more than willing fill that void. My own bishop sent out a few letters in the past six months, some read in church and some, like this past Sunday, never mentioned but put in the bulletin. It is going to take more than mass mailing/email to rally the people in the pews.

    I am quite knowledgeable concerning politics and even religious issues, including knowing that voting ones conscience means a WELL FORMED conscience. Well formed in the teachings of the Church. I read the prayer card this weekend; nice prayer and pretty picture on the front and ambiguous writing on the back that, if you did not know better, seemed to put helping the poor on an even scale with abortion. Then stating that people should vote their conscience.

    Father, this country sorely needs clergy like you to speak out. People cannot rally around something they do not understand. They cannot back a doctrine that is presented in ambiguous ways. They cannot avail themselves of a well formed conscience, if our own clergy continue to wince whenever the word ‘politics’ comes up. Please, please, continue to post about the moral teachings of the church. As nice as it is for the laypeople to converse with one another, it seems that people are always much more willing to listen and learn, whenever our clergy speak.

    I pray that God will continue to bless you in all the work you do, in order to put this blog out, and that it will move many people to action. God bless you Father.

  49. Tom Frazzini says:

    I don’t know what you said that can be disputed. I think there is a thing as Devine retribution for nations. Ours will be a beauty.

  50. TaillerHuws says:

    Good points Msgr Pope.

    Explicit fornication and adultery should be outlawed such that if health / legal / government costs are incurred as a result of those acts, the People should not be required to pay for those costs. It should be a personal expenditure.

    The point: the Government should discourage practices which are bad for people…learn a lesson from cigarettes.

    Obama Administration would claim that this is an assault on women. I disagree. An assault on women occurs when no one works to discourage unhealthy sexual habits such that men believe they have a Government-sanctioned / financed right to use women strictly for sexual relations and a right to health / legal care to “clean up” the result of those unhealthy relations or to prevent that unhealthy result by paying for women to ingest poisons for the sake of causing infertility or abortion to occur – an unhealthy practice done for the sake of enabling another unhealthy practice.

    The Obama Administration would be likened to the one who says: “Eat and binge drink. For we have funded vomitoriums where you can purge yourself and return for more engorging and binge drinking. While we do not think it our place to tell you not to engorge your stomachs with unnecessary foods and to binge drink to the point of delirium, we want to be sure you can do it as safely as possible.”

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