Comments on: An “Unpopular” Teaching on Marriage http://blog.adw.org/2009/08/an-unpopular-teaching-on-marriage/ Connecting the dots between Catholic faith and culture Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:02:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: CastingCrown http://blog.adw.org/2009/08/an-unpopular-teaching-on-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-1088 CastingCrown Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:11:36 +0000 http://blog.adw.org/?p=3286#comment-1088 The problem with this passage being the *Second* Reading at Mass is that it's very easy for the Priest to not have to comment on it in his homily and only speak about the Gospel reading. This happened on the rare occasion when a relative of mine went to Mass (she was badly burnt by the church growing up). As you can imagine she reacted very badly to *her perception* of what this passage said. I really don't think you can proclaim a scripture passage as provocative as this one without providing at least some commentary on it. Things will change when I am Pope... ;-) The problem with this passage being the *Second* Reading at Mass is that it’s very easy for the Priest to not have to comment on it in his homily and only speak about the Gospel reading. This happened on the rare occasion when a relative of mine went to Mass (she was badly burnt by the church growing up). As you can imagine she reacted very badly to *her perception* of what this passage said. I really don’t think you can proclaim a scripture passage as provocative as this one without providing at least some commentary on it.

Things will change when I am Pope… ;-)

]]> By: timothy e tilghman http://blog.adw.org/2009/08/an-unpopular-teaching-on-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-1084 timothy e tilghman Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:24:06 +0000 http://blog.adw.org/?p=3286#comment-1084 As I read it, the passage is not difficult to understand, but people read it and take the "burger king" approach to marriage, i.e., have your way (as opposed to God's way). I think this section of Ephesians 5 begins with the call to "submit to one another out of reverence to Christ." Submit out of reverence to Christ. We need to spend more time thinking about the meaning of the text. Far too many say it is too hard even though the theme is constantly repeated starting in the beginning where the "the two become one and have dominion over God's creation (Gen 1) and they were naked and not ashamed, i.e., fully open in communicating and relating to one another (Gen 2). at some point in time, we got to the present state i.e., naked and ashamed (Gen 3) and we often choose to stay here. i have a basic question for one who would consider submitting consistent with the text. What is the appropriate response to a spouse who would submit consistent with divine law and enter a relationship by submitting out of reverence for Christ. My choice to attempt to live by this law is the best choice I have made in this life because my wife sees my intent and consistently responds to me in the way Christ responds to all. so, What is the appropriate response and will you commit to it? As I read it, the passage is not difficult to understand, but people read it and take the “burger king” approach to marriage, i.e., have your way (as opposed to God’s way). I think this section of Ephesians 5 begins with the call to “submit to one another out of reverence to Christ.” Submit out of reverence to Christ. We need to spend more time thinking about the meaning of the text. Far too many say it is too hard even though the theme is constantly repeated starting in the beginning where the “the two become one and have dominion over God’s creation (Gen 1) and they were naked and not ashamed, i.e., fully open in communicating and relating to one another (Gen 2). at some point in time, we got to the present state i.e., naked and ashamed (Gen 3) and we often choose to stay here.

i have a basic question for one who would consider submitting consistent with the text. What is the appropriate response to a spouse who would submit consistent with divine law and enter a relationship by submitting out of reverence for Christ. My choice to attempt to live by this law is the best choice I have made in this life because my wife sees my intent and consistently responds to me in the way Christ responds to all. so, What is the appropriate response and will you commit to it?

]]> By: Sister Girl http://blog.adw.org/2009/08/an-unpopular-teaching-on-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-1020 Sister Girl Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:17:37 +0000 http://blog.adw.org/?p=3286#comment-1020 WOW is all I can say!!! You could not have made it any clearer. Maybe if we keep praying hard enough, and you keep preaching the WORD like this, just maybe we will be able to at least lower the divorce rate!.....LOL WOW is all I can say!!! You could not have made it any clearer. Maybe if we keep praying hard enough, and you keep preaching the WORD like this, just maybe we will be able to at least lower the divorce rate!…..LOL

]]> By: susan timoney http://blog.adw.org/2009/08/an-unpopular-teaching-on-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-1004 susan timoney Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:50:55 +0000 http://blog.adw.org/?p=3286#comment-1004 Msgr. Pope, thanks for tackling one of the most difficult readings on which to preach. I think it is not only an opportunity to "set the record straight" about a misunderstood passage but also to confront the reality that in most houselholds these days the woman really is in charge and tends to run the show. The priest I heard preach talked about headship as the husband taking the lead in service to his wife and his family, stepping up to the plate in family affairs and this message is an important one as well, especially in two -parent working households when there is not enough hours in the day to do it all and often the wife and mother carries the bigger burden. Msgr. Pope, thanks for tackling one of the most difficult readings on which to preach. I think it is not only an opportunity to “set the record straight” about a misunderstood passage but also to confront the reality that in most houselholds these days the woman really is in charge and tends to run the show. The priest I heard preach talked about headship as the husband taking the lead in service to his wife and his family, stepping up to the plate in family affairs and this message is an important one as well, especially in two -parent working households when there is not enough hours in the day to do it all and often the wife and mother carries the bigger burden.

]]> By: Vonna http://blog.adw.org/2009/08/an-unpopular-teaching-on-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-993 Vonna Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:30:38 +0000 http://blog.adw.org/?p=3286#comment-993 I thank you from the bottom of my heart for this post! I that if more married couples submitted to this, as God commands, would there be so many divorces? So many single parent households? I think not.... Plus I always look at it like this...he (my husband) is the boss, if it all goes to the birds....it's his fault :) LOL! I thank you from the bottom of my heart for this post! I that if more married couples submitted to this, as God commands, would there be so many divorces? So many single parent households? I think not….
Plus I always look at it like this…he (my husband) is the boss, if it all goes to the birds….it’s his fault :) LOL!

]]> By: Maureen http://blog.adw.org/2009/08/an-unpopular-teaching-on-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-992 Maureen Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:37:30 +0000 http://blog.adw.org/?p=3286#comment-992 Amen, Father!! Amen, Father!!

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